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  • Posted by Videobiker on July 29, 2005 at 3:48 pm

    I have several shots on green screen that need to be keyed. I tried the Blue/Green screen filter and think it sucks. So does the chroma keyer. I have just left the Avid world where the chroma keyer, when using the eyedropper, does a great job of removing green and leaving a GREAT key. This stuff is leaving too many halo’s of green no matter what I try.

    I read an earlier post on Chroma key and feel it should be easier to accomplish than using several filters. Any Plug-ins out there that do the job better?

    Biker

    Pol replied 20 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Curious Turtle

    July 29, 2005 at 4:01 pm

    You’re right, the standard keyer filters in FCP are far from good.

    You should take a look at the BorisFX Continuum set, there’s some good keying filters there that will plug straight into FCP.

    You can find more information here.

    HTH

    Ben

    Curious Turtle Professional Video
    Training | Editing |Support

    https://www.curiousturtle.com

  • Chris Poisson

    July 29, 2005 at 4:18 pm

    For about a quarter the price of Continuum, you can get DVmattePro. It has eyedroppers like you mentioned. Killer keyer. Continuum is great too, just kinda expensive.

  • Videobiker

    July 29, 2005 at 4:44 pm

    I checked out the DVmatte pro. I have Sapphire so I don’t need all the power of Continuum vbut I do need a good keyer. It looks good. What about compatability with the latest version of FCP 5?

    Biker

  • Jerry Hofmann

    July 29, 2005 at 5:31 pm

    If you have Motion, it’s keyer is much better than FCP’s…

    Jerry

  • Alexander Serpico

    July 29, 2005 at 6:05 pm

    What format does the footage come from? How was this footage loaded? And what is its compression?

  • Videobiker

    July 29, 2005 at 7:17 pm

    A)How do I bring this clip into motion
    B)How do I apply the keyer

    Biker

  • Dan Luke

    July 29, 2005 at 8:23 pm

    ultimatte plugin spendy but very clean and flexible

  • Jerry Hofmann

    July 29, 2005 at 11:27 pm

    It’s a filter… the primatte keyer in the key filters… just export the file from FCP to Motion with the bkg on V1 and the forground on V2… then key it in motion using that fiilte , and your done. Don’t forget that you can cut out some of the green with the garbage matte in FCP or in Motion too, saving you from having to key out some the area…

    Jerry

  • Kevin Monahan

    July 29, 2005 at 11:59 pm

    DV Garage is about to release “DVMatte Blast”, which runs in Motion and FCP. It rocks in Motion and it harnesses the GPU, so the adjustments you make are totally RT. Alex Lindsay just showed this to us at SF Cutters last WED. 3 clicks and you’re in the zone. Fewer features than his DVMatte Pro, but also way cheaper, like $99 or something. If you were doing corporate video with a lot of green screen shots and not much time, this would be the ideal tool. Does a good down and dirty job of keying which works well in DV, HDV and HD.

    Keep your eye out for it.

    If I were you videobiker, and had a dozen shots to key on a deadline–Blast would be the ticket.

    BTW, Jerry. I don’t have Motion, so how simple is keying with Primatte and Motion? Quick?

    Kevin Monahan
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
    fcpworld.com

  • Alexander Serpico

    July 30, 2005 at 2:48 am

    Regardless of what the footage was shot on, load this in using and AJA or Blackmagic card at an uncompressed codec. This will give you a huge advantage because of the better color space/sampling. Believe it or not, even capturing plain old DV through one of these methods will give you better results… (there is a page somewhere – as well as cowposts that confirm this)

    These are your choices for a well done greenscreen comp:

    1. Motion is great for a quick start…

    2. Get DVMattePro(https://www.dvgarage.com/) for doing your comps in Final Cut…

    3. Do the comp in After Effects (the Production Bundle version, since) that comes complete with the KeyLight keying filter.

    4. Apple’s Shake

    (i found some more helpful things explaining the problem with keying DV footage, and what you can do about it with DVMattePro and Keylight at: https://www.philipwilliams.com/greenscreen.aspx)

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