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  • Posted by Adam Dewhirst on August 6, 2009 at 2:54 am

    so im going to edit pal hdv natively…

    if natively does this mean i cant edit frame by frame as from what i can gather with hdv its gop formation means that it relies on surrounding frames for its information…

    Zane Barker replied 15 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    August 6, 2009 at 3:07 am

    Yes you can edit HDV in its native format frame by frame.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • John Pale

    August 6, 2009 at 3:10 am

    FCP handles creating the needed frames from the surrounding frames for you on the fly. Thats why HDV is so processor intensive.

  • Adam Dewhirst

    August 6, 2009 at 3:13 am

    thanks tom,

    i gather i’ve misunderstood the nature of gop…

    adam

  • Adam Dewhirst

    August 6, 2009 at 3:15 am

    thanks john,

    does this mean if i used the apple intermediate codec it would be less processor intensive..

    also, if i do use aic can this be exported back out to tape at full hdv quality?

    adam

  • Tom Wolsky

    August 6, 2009 at 3:27 am

    It’s less processor intensive but it takes up much more drive space. You can print it to video but the video has to be processed and conformed back to native HDV before it can be recorded.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Zane Barker

    August 6, 2009 at 4:08 am

    Basically with gop video the way it works is that when you make an edit on a frame that is not the i frame FCP must create a new i frame when you render, export, conform to put to tape etc. That building of new i frames is what makes native HDV so processor intense and why it takes longer to render etc.

    If you have drives that can handle the higher data rate and file sizes then go with prores.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Michael Gissing

    August 6, 2009 at 4:54 am

    Don’t convert to AIC. That is an needless transcoding. If you want to get off HDV and edit with a lossless codec, then transcode to ProRes on ingest.

  • Adam Dewhirst

    August 6, 2009 at 5:46 am

    michael,

    could you explain what ingest is?

    adam

  • Zane Barker

    August 6, 2009 at 6:58 am

    [adam dewhirst] “could you explain what ingest is? “

    Getting the video onto the computer. for example capturing form camera/deck, or transferring from media cards/drives.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

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