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  • Goodby to FCP 7, you will be missed

    Posted by Gustavo Bermudas on June 17, 2011 at 6:44 am

    After watching Larry Jordan talk about Final Cut X being a complete rewrite, and that Apple has a poor track record on dot zero releases, one thing is sure, Final Cut Pro will cease to exist as we know it.

    This is a new editing software, with many things missing that, as Larry said, will probably get incorporated in later versions.

    I don’t know the rest of you, but I don’t feel like starting all over again. One thing I gotta give Avid though, is that they’re stable, and right now, Apple is making me feel very unstable.

    Mark Suszko replied 14 years, 11 months ago 15 Members · 25 Replies
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  • Eric Santiago

    June 17, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    We’ve been running Avid since Meridean days. Now were at NitrisDX.
    No its not stable 😛
    Its another tool and when that tool needs to be sharpened/fixed, we just move sideways over the very reliable FCP.
    Looking forward to adding another tool called FCPX 😉

  • Craig Seeman

    June 17, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    [Gustavo Bermudas] “I don’t know the rest of you, but I don’t feel like starting all over again”

    You’re in the wrong profession then. You can’t get me near the CMX340 I started editing with. I’d curse at a 2″ tape machine today.

    If you think you’re starting over then one needs to evaluate what one actually knows. The editing skills I learned on the CMX 340 are still relevant, just a lot easier to execute, with today’s software. I fully expect once I learn FCPX, it will be leagues easier than FCP7.

    Maybe with a sense of irony, it seems to be the younger ones who’ve never lived through the industry changes, who fear change the most.

  • Walter Soyka

    June 17, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    [Gustavo Bermudas] “I don’t know the rest of you, but I don’t feel like starting all over again.”

    I actually consider the ability to start all over again (again and again) to be one of the most important skills anyone can have.

    It is certainly hard work, though.

    [Craig Seeman] “Maybe with a sense of irony, it seems to be the younger ones who’ve never lived through the industry changes, who fear change the most.

    Or those who have built their businesses on the back of the last big disruption (the DV revolution) — and I think it’s very understandable. When you have an established pipeline that’s making you money, change (disruption) is unsettling. I think there’s the latent concern that FCP X could be to FCP today what FCP was to Avid in the early 2000s.

    One thing is for certain — we live in interesting times.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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  • David Battistella

    June 17, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Gustavo,

    As a creative professional I have always welcomed throwing it all away and learning something new. In my editing career I have used, AVID, FCP, Media 100, Lightworks, Discreet EDIT, premiere pro, and just about any software that lets you put two images together on a timeline.

    As a Director/DP ive used everyting from film to small, large, medium format, etc.

    My point is that old reliable is great, in many situations, but true creatives are ready to embrace and learn somehting new. It exercises a part of teh brain and can open your mind in many different ways. Many pieces of saftware accomplish the same things with a different language.

    Donn’t be afraid of a new piece of software and there is nothing stopping you from “freezing your system” and editing the way you like to right now.

    I new an AVID editor who was still editing on two 14inch CRT’s and a very old version of offline only AVID software because it suited his needs and it was what he liked. The tool was there for editing purposes only and it served him well and he edited many hours of footage and created some great films.

    No one is bending your arm into using FCP X and apple isn’t going to go on your machine and take away FCP 7. If you like it stay with it.

    David

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  • Devin Crane

    June 17, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    We all heard what Larry Jordan said about FCPX being not ready from the get go, but what most people didn’t read was his blog that states he has since changed his stance. He also shared about how he has had access to FCP architects but could not share conversations due to NDA.

    Here’s my take on things, Apple has actually had many years to work and field test FCPX without anyone knowing it was FCPX in iMovie. Yesterday I took an IMX clip imported it into the latest version of iMove and added text graphics, changed the contrast, white balance, audio eq and ect all while playing in realtime and without any hiccups. The coolest thing was applying fx while it was playing and not even choking one bit. Given iMove doesn’t have any of the pro editing features that we are looking for, but for a base code it has been well tested and tried for the past several years. I would imagine that like any new update to FCP there will be bugs and probably more so with FCPX. But I would say it’s going to be more stable than what people believe.

  • Paul Jay

    June 17, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    FCP7 will run for years.

    FCP4 is still running on a G4!

    It didn’t die.

  • Ben Holmes

    June 17, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    If you think MC5.5 is stable (or 5 come to that) you haven’t talked to anyone that uses it.

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  • Eric Santiago

    June 17, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Avid MC 5.0aack is not stable 😛
    I have numerous posts on Avid forum on Hagrid, SWDC or whatever new crash code out these days.
    None has been addressed and its over a year old for some of these.
    Oh sure Ive moved ahead and started working on newer projects that work but everytime I have to go back to some old files, one of these errors rears its ugly head.
    We have support…or lack of 😛

  • Matt Callac

    June 17, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Anyone Got a link to this. I’d be interested to read what he said about “changing his mind”.

    -mattyc

  • Walter Soyka

    June 17, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    [Matt Callac] “Anyone Got a link to this. I’d be interested to read what he said about “changing his mind”.”

    It’s on Larry’s blog:

    https://www.larryjordan.biz/goodies/blog.html

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

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