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Going Bonkers! Somebody Must Know The Answer.
Hello all,
I posted on this same topic about a month ago. I have received zero solutions (very few responses), have scoured the net in every way I can think of and I have yet to find any answers. Geniuses of the video editing world, your help would be SO appreciated.
The Specs
Intel Duo Core
4GB DDR2 800MHz
Nvidia 9800 (i believe)
Vista Ultimate 64 bit
Sony Vegas 8.1The Issue
All generated text whether using the standard Sony text media generator or the pro type titler looks fine when I’m editing and previewing, but looks absolutely horrible once I render it. I believe my jpg images also still look really cruddy, but all video footage is fine. By horrible I mean jagged edges, jumping all around and just worthless.
The History/Render Style
Keep in mind that I am not new to Vegas, I have been using it for years without a single issue of this variety. I am also rendering the exact same way I have rendered virtually every project I have ever done before. The only difference is v8.1 of Vegas and Vista Ultimate 64 versus XP Home (32 bit).
I typically render AVI DV widescreen, 23.976 w/pulldown. This particular video is not widescreen but all other settings are the same.
Initially I thought the problem to be a wrong setting in Vegas, but I have gone through the settings more times than I care to mention looking for a mistake and I can’t find one. I have also imported previously successfully rendered projects from Vegas 7.0 into 8.1 and re-rendered them…it is screwing them up as well.
Next, I began thinking this was a font issue…something to do with 64 bit fonts versus 32 bit fonts…but I am having zero luck finding any data stating that there is a difference whatsoever in these fonts.
On that same note, I thought maybe this old disc of fonts I always install on my computers overwrote some necessary vista fonts and replaced them with bad 32 bit fonts, but then I tried changing the font in my project to Cambria just as a test (Cambria of course being a font that is new to vista) and it rendered the same old way. Then I discovered Pro Type Titler plug-in…while not quite being able to figure this thing out, I at least figured I could put some text in and see if it cleaned it up…but no…same junky image.
Some fonts look better than others, but none of them look good. I should also point out that some of the more oddball fonts I have look better than say Times New Roman, which is about the most basic old-school font ever…yet it looks the worst.
PLEASE HELP! Going Nuts…Need This Project Done and have NO answers as yet. Thanks!!!!!!
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9 Replies
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It would appear you are doing everything correctly.
What is your initial FONT size?
So? “I typically render AVI DV widescreen, 23.976 w/pulldown. This particular video is not widescreen but all other settings are the same.” – Well, what is it? If it isn’t WS, then what is it?
When you right click on the SONY Text Properties what do you get under “Media”?
Grazie
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Hi,
Thanks for your quick reply.
Initial font size – some are 26 points, some are around 40 points.
It’s not NTSC DV Widescreen – it’s just NTSC DV…although I should note that when I re-rendered projects mentioned in my original post, those were DV Widescreen and it re-rendered them wrong as well
under sony text properties media tab –
use timecode in file
video 1 stream
720×480
23.976fps
Field order: None progressive scan
.9091 NTSC DV
Alpha Channel Premultiplied
Background color black
rotation 0 degreesThanks again!
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Can you post your veg file somewhere on the web so I can download it? I would like to see how it renders out for me using your settings and compare that with my template.
j razz
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I could try. Any suggestions? I have just been working with a 45 second – 1 minute sample from the beginning of it just to figure this problem out. if you have a place I can send it, I will. thanks!
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The Lite version (it’s free) allows you to send files up to 100 MB with a 1 GB monthly download limit. -
If you already know this, I apologize for the obvious suggestion, but make sure your PROJECT settings are the same as your intended RENDER settings WHEN YOU ADD THE TITLE. Otherwise, Vegas will optimize the title for the project settings which won’t necessarily look good when you render to a different format.
-John
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I believe the settings are dead on. I’ve gone over them so many times I don’t think I could have missed anything. Any other suggestions out there, I have to say I’m more than a tad bit shocked that nobody else has encountered or experienced this issue with all of the vegas users out there upgrading not only their vegas versions, but their OS’ as well.
Although nothing has worked as yet, thanks for the suggestions so far and I did take Mike’s suggestion to open a send it account.
If anyone out there thinks they might have a suggestion about this, I would be glad to send them the veg file sample. Of course you won’t have any of the video but you should be able to see the basic font issue I am having. Let me know. thanks! -
I don’t think sending the project will make a difference because you said that old projects that were fine on XP look bad too. That means your new project will probably look fine on our PC’s. If the text looks fine when previewed at full quality on the timeline it’s probably not the fonts either.
This points to the render as the only opportunity for a change. Try rendering to several different codecs across AVI, MPG, MOV and maybe even MP4. See if maybe some other software has caused a codec to be swapped. I know that I had horrible problems with having Nero Burning software on my PC. It inserted itself into my AVI stream and made all of my DV AVI renders from Vegas incompatible with Boris RED. I uninstalled Nero and everything worked again!
So what other video/DVD/multi-media software is on this new PC?
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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Hi John,
The only DVD/video software on here is Vegas 8.1, DVD Architect 5 and then some standard video players. I am not running nero, in fact I am not running anything that hasn’t worked fine with vegas previously.
I should also note, in correction to, I believe, my original post up there, that my font sizes are 60 point and 26 point…and that the 26 point looks a heck of a lot better (in fact maybe even good) compared to the 60 point.
Also, wanted to re-note that, originally at least, any jpg images that I put into the time-line were also rendering out like junk (jittery, etc).
Thanks everybody for the ongoing help.
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