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  • Posted by James Ewart on July 2, 2015 at 10:23 am

    I’ve got some underwater swimming to shoot and edit on Go Pros next week.

    This will be for the web. I am just wondering if I will notice much benefit for shooting 1080p over 720p when it comes to the edit and final output. I have an option of 100 fps for 720p. I am thinking I am not going to notice huge benefits of the faster frame rate (compared to 50 fps) when I slow down by 50% or am I mistaken? I’m in PAL.

    Or should I not even bother about PAL for the web and choose NTSC and shoot at 60fps (option 120 fps in 720).

    I am going to shoot some basic tests over the weekend but would be grateful for any tips from anybody who is more familiar with these cameras.

    Thanks in advance

    James

    http://www.jamesewart.co.uk

    Tony West replied 10 years, 10 months ago 10 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Ann Bens

    July 2, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    Underwater is best shot on 1080.
    If you are on pal set the camera to pal.
    You never know if you need the footage in a pal setting.

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  • James Ewart

    July 2, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    Thanks for this.

    Out of interest you think it’s better with the lower light or what other technical reasons?

    Switched the camera across to your PAL 1080 50FPS settings.

    Thanks

  • Ann Bens

    July 2, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    Nope, turn that all off.
    You can better do that in post.

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  • James Ewart

    July 2, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    Sorry turn all what off?

    50fps? You think better at 25 fps?

    thanks for the feedback

  • Noah Kadner

    July 2, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    If it’s for web and no broadcast footage is to be incorporated why do it in PAL? Do it at 24 fps and optimize for the web.

    Noah

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  • Bill Davis

    July 2, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    Also, if you’ve just in a pool ignore this. But if you go deeper than pool depth – light changes dramatically, losing all the red spectrum. Just something to look up if it’s involved in what you’re doing.
    FWIW.

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  • James Ewart

    July 3, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Just thinking if I am slowing it down shooting at a higher frame rate might make it smoother no?

  • James Ewart

    July 3, 2015 at 9:50 am

    [Noah Kadner] “If it’s for web and no broadcast footage is to be incorporated why do it in PAL? Do it at 24 fps and optimize for the web.”

    However I was thinking as we are 50hz over here and the market is essentially UK do our screen not refresh at different rates and there still better to be at 25 or 50fps?

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • Jeff Kirkland

    July 3, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    Here in Australia I’m generally shooting 25p but despite being a 50hz PAL country, not all screens are doing that.

    Most computer monitors are showing 60hz or higher. It’s rare for a computer screen to be able to sync to 50hz. A lot of cheap televisions are really just computer monitors with a receiver added so they’re also running at 60hz. More mid-range big brand TVs are showing PAL at 50jz but not always.

    I’ve been shooting 24p for almost everything except stuff destined ffor broadcast during the past year or so. Even with broadcast I don’t think there’d be any great issue with me converting 24 to 25fps but some network QA departments can be painful so I err on the side of caution.

    DVD players, Blu-Ray players, televisions, and even a lot of cheap computer monitors know what 24p is and will most often show it natively – and it’s a fairly safe standard to use world-wide.

    Anyway, the upshot is that for the web you might want to shoot 30 or 60p, for broadcast you might want to shoot 25 or 50p and for everything else 24p is the common denominator – but whatever you shoot in someone, somewhere isn’t going to be watching at the frequency you intended..

    FCPX doesn’t really care what you shot it in so you may as well choose what’s technically best for you ca,era and shoot away.

    Or at least that’s been my thinking in 2015.

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  • James Ewart

    July 4, 2015 at 4:00 am

    Thanks Jeff.

    Am I deluding myself from my old film days that shooting digital at higher frame rates will result in a smoother slo mo should I wish to slow it down in a 30fps timeline if I have shot at 60fps? Of course I understand there is a difference but shooting progressively at these higher rates should result in better slo mo no?

    I

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