Getting random crashes with 5.0.2. Anybody else?

[Carsten Orlt]

Dan
I have a Pipe too, using the same workflow (DV offline, Uncompressed Online) and noticed the following:
When I use the thumbnail coloumn in the browser, the system had the erratic crashes you have.
Also choosing ‘desktop only’ in the Pipe system preferences pane made a big difference. The Interceptor function wasn’t stable.
Changing these 2 things made my system rock stable, and I can happily switch between software and finder and not once the system crashed.
If you use either, give it a try
Cofe

[Dan Riley]

Well, I never use the thumbnail column but I do use the desktop
interpreter. I’ll turn it off and restart. Hopefully this might help.

This is just crazy. I’ve never seen anything like this before.
It just quits and goes away. This is the first time in five years I’m no longer
comfortable using FCP. If I’m the only one, fine. But if this keeps up,
I’m not going to be recommending FCP is the way we go here
when we upgrade to HD. They already have AVIDS and they are
very solid. This feels like a toy app, certainly not a “pro” anything.
This from a guy who’s used FCP since version 1.2.5.
If it wasn’t for the multicam, which I need, I’d revert back to
version 4.5 in a heartbeat. That one I could beat to death and
it would not die on me. This one, you just play a clip and it quits.
I can’t even imagine anyone thinking about using this version
in any mission critical situations like air playback.

Dan

[John Dehn]

I’m sorry, but what do you mean by the thumbnail column?

I too have had some random crashes in 5.02 and Tiger and have recently gone back to 4.5 and Panther because of it. I also have had consistant crashes when I try to export a sequence to a quicktime movie. I’m using the Aurora Igniter RT on a dual 1.25, G4, 3 Medea G-Raids for storage.

Thanks

-John Dehn

[Carsten Orlt]

Dan
sorry to hear!
I’m running (after this minor adjustments) FCP5.02 rock solid for 4 weeks. So its working.
ok my specs: G4/1.4 DP/Firmtek SATA card +1 Firmtek 2 drive enclosure/Pipe Studio
all latest updates for OS and FCP Studio package and Pipe drivers.

Its probably stating the obvious but you may want to trash the FCP settings and obj. and RT caches, Uninstall Pipe drivers, reinstall.
If you already done that, you might have to face the ‘system rebuild’ option.

Sorry I don’t know anything else to do, as if our 2 sytems are not exactly the same there are quite a few variables…
You should definitely drop Aurora a line, because they might have heart something from other users that could give you a lead.

Cofe

[Carsten Orlt]

John
right click on the coloumn headers in the browser and choose to display ‘thumbnails’
this gives you a still of the clip.

The crashes in regard to quicktime export (I presume uncompressed footage) are know.
I’m not sure to what Aurora is up to with the Igniter but you may want to drop them a line to ask.
Also from reading the Aurora forum it looks like users have problems with the Igniter and
OS 10.4.x and FCP 5.x and some made the same decision as you to go back.

Cofe

[Dan Riley]

I didn’t know either what he meant because I’d never used it.
In the browser if you control click while near the column headings
you will see, ‘show thumbnail’. It changes the way the bins
are displayed in the browser. If you had a bin with a bunch of
clips in it and you had selected to show images for each,
then when you did the thumbnail setting and you clicked on
a bin, it would display all the first image frames down a column
in the browser. Anyway, it’s not something I would use.

Hopefully his other suggestion about turning off the
desktop interpreter for quicktime movies will help the crashes.
As for your crashes on export, that problem I’ve never had.
I’m using Pipe Studio though, not the Igniter.

Dan

[Dave Jenkins]

Danrnw, One of our systems is very similar to yours except we use the AJA LA and one of my editors just finshed editing two shows working five 18 hour days with NO crashes. It seems like a Aurora Problem more than a FCP problem.

G5 dual 2.0 gig, 4 gig ram.
Tiger 10.4.2. Quicktime 7.0.2.
Sonnet 4 by 4 with 4 external SATA raid
AJA LA, DV50 for one show and 8 bit uncompressed for the other.

[Danrnw] “Current system is:
G5 dual 2.5 gig, 4 gig ram.
Tiger 10.4.2. Quicktime 7.0.2.
Sonnet 4 by 4 with 4 external SATA drives for media.
Aurora Pipe Studio.
Editing DV for offline, 10 bit uncompressed for online.”

Dajen Productions
Santa Barbara, CA
G5 Dual 2 Gig – AJA IO & LA
Huge 1.2 Raid
FCP 5-OS X 10.4.1-QT 7

[Bill Kelly]

Yes. It happened to me twice last night. I’m offlining an HD project in DV/DVC Pro at work, using an AJA standard def card. Both times it ocurred by just hitting the spacebar to play the timeline. The ‘ol spinning color wheel of death appeared and I had to reboot the Mac both times. This is a G5 our company purchased less than a month ago, with Tiger and FCP 5.02 running on it. I run 10.39 and 4.5 at home and have never had that problem. I’m going to wait on the upgrade for a while until some of the bugginess seems to go away. I don’t really have any need for it on my system at home yet anyway.

[Dan Riley]

Dave,
Seems like there is trouble somewhere in my system,
if your experience is any indication.
My system with Aurora Pipe Studio had been pretty solid
up until Quicktime 7.0.2 and FCP 5.0.2.
But there is no denying your setup and others
that are working fine. I’ll do some more work
to track down what’s going on.

Thanks,
Dan

[Calvin]

Mine’s very buggy too w 10.4.2 & FCP 5.0.2. slows down after a few days- requires a restart & other apps crash ocasionally…