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  • Getting more out of glow

    Posted by Quejet on May 18, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    Glow is one effect in particular that interests me, its useful for making things have bloom, sort of a brighter then bright feel to them. the problem is i seem quiet limited as to just how much bloom i can have. More specifically if i ramp the radius of the glow to a larger number, all of a sudden it fades away on me. Ive tried combining the effect with matte chokers (which more often then not messes around with what I’m glowing…), even using multiple instances of the effect to try and contrast it, but the moment I ramp the value to far, glow stops playing ball.

    now to make sure the explanation of my problem is clear, i have some images which may help you get where I’m coming from. to be honest I’m not 100% sure how to tag these in, so you may have to drag these into your address bar.
    https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/236/bloomwebyj8.png
    https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7016/bloom2webed1.png

    despite showing the problem off in the second image, this works rather well for this situation, however when something has transparency and is thing, and i want to give it some long distance bloom, it seems that everything i try just ends up looking bad.

    [img]https://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5373/qjetexplosion6sj.gif[/img]

    Quejet replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Steve Morris

    May 18, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    I have the same problem. The radius, intensity and threshold don’t seem to give me the effect I am looking for. Watch Andrew Kamer’s tutorials. He discusses glow. I can’t seem to get the same amount of glow that he does.

  • Quejet

    May 18, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    hehe, I appreciate that, unfortunately i really have. although i will admit that the images i showed you didn’t demonstrate ramping the intensity up for the larger radius, still, this really has a constrained effect, what i mean by this is that once radius gets to some value, it doesn’t matter how much intensity i have, it just doesn’t do anything.

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  • Quejet

    May 18, 2007 at 7:33 pm

    Hmm. I appreciate that I’m a bran spanking new member of creative cow, however my experience with after effects isn’t as limited as you think it is. (refer to sig for example)
    glow isn’t doing what we want, not because of threshold. the point of this is that for one glow effect, all the settings, no mater what they are set to, don’t give me the result im looking for, which is a much larger bloom.

    I have a feeling this point isn’t getting across so to illustrate this better for you, Dave could you do me a favour and open after effects? Create a comp oh say 480 640 (thats the resolution i commonly work in anyway…) and create a thin solid (10 px sound good?) for the glow

    set this in the centre and try to glow this layer so that you get a strong bloom that reaches the top and bottom of the composition.

    if you successfully get this to work, post a picture of this and give us some settings. And you will have solved the problem!

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  • Darby Edelen

    May 18, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    [QueJet] “glow isn’t doing what we want, not because of threshold. the point of this is that for one glow effect, all the settings, no mater what they are set to, don’t give me the result im looking for, which is a much larger bloom.”

    Then perhaps it’s time to look at 32bpc and linear compositing for more realistic blooming effects.

    Also, keep in mind that you have more control when you keep it simple: duplicating your source layer, parenting it, switching it to Add mode and using a box blur will not only give you a glow effect, but it will render faster. Add a levels effect to get more out of the self-made glow.

    Darby Edelen
    DVD Menu Artist
    Left Coast Digital
    Aptos, CA

  • Steve Morris

    May 18, 2007 at 7:56 pm

    It may have something to do with the original color of the solid you are working with. I seem to notice a better glow when the color has more white or saturation. Make sure to watch the tutorials of Andrew Kramers. The light saber and light streaks tuts should help you some. He has some newer versions of these tuts on his own site. http://www.videocopilot.net

  • Mike Clasby

    May 18, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    If you don’t have shine, try Radial Fast Blur (100, Brightest).

    Also you can (on a duplicatred layer … or not) duplicate, triplicate or quadricate (is that a word?) the Glow Effect and it grows at an amazing rate.

    Also, depending on what it’s applied to, you might need to Grow Bounds to see your effects.

    Ciao.

  • Quejet

    May 18, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    hmm perhaps you are right about glow being the wrong tool, however i don’t believe trapcodes shine is the perfect tool either (though a notable suggestion none the less)

    the reason I’m thinking this is that:

    trapcode shine is directional (emanating from a point)
    trapcode shine is volumetric
    trapcode shine 99 bucks .(

    the blur seems interesting, and compacting layers on top of each other seems interesting as well, perhaps CC composite can be used? Ill start playing around!

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