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Getting a movie down to size for DVD
Wow! this is a bear! Trial and error trying to get my movie down to size to fit on a DVD in DVDA-2.
First I used the default settings 8-6-2. Way too big. Then I tried 8-5542-2, still too big.
Okay 3rd time I tried 8-5282-2 but click on 2-pass. Big mistake I think. File size showed 3.86GB but got a M2V file. AC3 was 143mb. First play video is 4.34mb, ac3 292kb. but DVDA said the file was close to 5GB?????
Video is 1h 44m 45s, or 105 minutes. So now I’m rendering for a 4th time at 8-5282-2 single pass.
What’s my problem here? No motion menu’s. Only 2 menu pages, main and scene selection. It should have fit with the 3.86gb file size. Did using 2-pass (m2v) do something else to the file?
Maybe I should think about adjusting the high figure? Very little fast action here as it’s a wedding shower video.
Any suggestions? I’m using the chart inVegas Tips & tricks Vol 1 #7, June 2003. I thought I had another bitrate calculator somewhere but since installing this new operating system, I’m still trying to re-install and find all my programs.
Anyone got some suggestions? I’d hate to have to render this 6 or 7 times. But then I haven’t made a DVD in a year. Everything for work is on CD’s. UGH!
Allen
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China, China Railways and music.
https://www.azagel.comVideo site;
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IMO when your project is over an hr let DVDA render the mpeg2 .. drop AVI into DVDA menu then when you MAKE DVD (prepare) use FIT to DISC
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donatello
Thank you very much. I’m rendering to AVI now and will try that.
This is reminding me of a situation when I went from DVDA-1 to DVDA-2. I thought that DVDA-2 was adding something because the exact same file was almost 1/2 GB larger in DVDA-2 that 1.
That M2V 2-pass file in windows explorer showed a size of 3.86Gb. It should have fit fine. When I inserted the file into DVDA-2 the file size grew to 4.05 GB. Rendered the same file again using Single pass, all in Vegas. The MPG file in explorer showed a size of 3.93, larger than the 2-pass render at the exact same bitrates. Same thing bringing it inot DVDA-2, increased the file size to 4.13g.
Unless I’m missing something, this doesn’t seem quite right. One difference between DVDA-1 and 2 I noticed right off was the fact that when playing in a set-top DVD player, DVD’s made in DVDA-1 did not show the chapter-time counters in the display. Never could figure out how to get it to display though. In DVDA-2 these settings are there so maybe that could account for the increased file size.
Allen
My web site features;
China, China Railways and music.
https://www.azagel.comVideo site;
https://www.asxmediaproductions.com -
i wonder if the difference in SIZE has to do with where it sits ( as in hard disk format ? fat 16 , fat 32, NTFS, CD , DVD, DVDram ) .. because i’ve noticed data files sitting on DVD’s tend to be larger then when i transfer to a hard drive .. so perhaps it all in how those 1’s & 0’s are counted on each MEDIUM might make the SAME FILE different sizes ?
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Remember that DVDA often over-estimates the final size of the DVD. You might want to go ahead and do the prepare and see what the final prepared size actually is. There’s a good chance it would be small enough.
Edward Troxel
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Hi
Rendered ‘again!’ to AVI and dropped the thing into DVDA, clicked “fit-to-disk” another hour or so to go and I’ll let you know. Wow, this new HP sure render’s fast. 2.5 hours for a 105minute film. Before I had to figure 3 or 5 to 1. Sometimes on a large video even up to 9/1 as in overnight!Good thought, I think. Anything over an hour or so, make the AVI and let DVDA-1 figure it out! ha ha
Allen
My web site features;
China, China Railways and music.
https://www.azagel.comVideo site;
https://www.asxmediaproductions.com -
Came out fantastic! Everything works on the DVD. Picture is great!
Case closed, for now! 😉
AllenMy web site features;
China, China Railways and music.
https://www.azagel.comVideo site;
https://www.asxmediaproductions.com -
Just for comparison, I had a 1 hour 50 minute video that I rendered to MPEG2 and AC3. I dropped both into DVDA on a simple menu and the size indicator in the lower right-hand corner said the video was too large. I prepared anyway and the resulting folder size is 4.08 Gig – plenty small to fit on a DVD. Even if it says it’s too larger, I would try preparing anyway if I *knew* it was small enough.
Edward Troxel
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Hello Ed
I would have done that except for that AC3 render problem. So in effect I was having two problems at once. Then I went back and decided to change the first play from a still photo to a 9 second movie.I don’t know why that size indicator couldn’t be a little more “on-the-money”.
I get this a lot with still photos between Windows Explorer, Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop Elements. All give different sizes of the same photo.
Thanks for the help
AllenMy web site features;
China, China Railways and music.
https://www.azagel.comVideo site;
https://www.asxmediaproductions.com -
I’ve also seen DVDA2 overestimate the size of my assets when authoring a DVD. I knew it would fit so I closed DVDA and reopened it and it said everything would fit.
Good luck.
Dennis
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