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Generating shot list w/thumbnails
Hi there. My company’s used a cool piece of software for a while called Final Print. It connects with Final Cut using XML and prints out a lovely shot list with thumbnails and metadata, great for communicating between producers and editors, super helpful.
We’re now working in Premiere, since we’re using XDCam footage that Final Cut can’t read. I was looking for an equivalent plugin that will save us the hours of creating a spreadsheet for our huge amounts of footage– especially one with thumbnails. Here are some trees I’ve already unsuccessfully barked up:
Exporting XML from Premiere to load into Final Print. Doesn’t work.
Using On Location. On Location CAN export a shotlist in a clunky .csv format, but as far as I can tell, only Open Office can open said csv file, it has a bunch of format errors, and no thumbnail.
Did a little bit of research on Clip Notes, which sort of seemed like a step in the right direction, but of course, it’s been discontinued in CS5 and replaced with some subscription service thing.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Benjamin Ausmith
Post-Production Assistant
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Try a demo of Lightroom 4. I haven’t tried myself but it has some video features (I don’t know if it’ll support XDCAM, but I’m sure it’s just borrowing from Adobe’s video engine anyways so there is a possibility) so you might be able to make contact sheets of the thumbnails.
Alternately, you could use Photoshop Extended to batch still frames and then create contact sheets in Photoshop or any other myriad of imaging software.
If you have After Effects you might try some scripting to render out still frames (allows you some control over placing the play head).
Just my initial thoughts concerning what is in the Adobe family.
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Thanks for responding. Just downloaded the trial of LightRoom, but it doesn’t seem to support XDCam.
Your other posts are all viable solutions, but seems like they’d involve a lot of manual labor– we’ve got hundreds of shots that we’d love a preexisting piece of software to just organize it in batch.
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You may want to look into Pictron and CatDV
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This doesn’t solve your problem, but I’ll add that about 2 years ago I was in the same boat as you. Our studio was looking to move away from FCP7 and we gave Premiere Pro an honest try. What you’re describing was one of the missing workflow pieces that ultimately led us to go with Avid.
If you find a solution please post it in this forum, as I would be interested to see if a solution finally comes around…
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So it seems like there’s a few interesting solutions out there, some nice looking software packages, but I can’t seem to find any that supports the XDCam codec, which is the real bottleneck in our process at the moment. Now I’m thinking that we should give up on trying to print out our shotlist and just keep all the metadata inside Premiere, and share a Premiere file that will keep our metadata.
Thanks for your help, everyone! If any new information comes up, I’d love to hear about it, though.
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Actually, OnLocation does a good job of exporting a spreadsheet of your metadata– sans thumbnails, but it’s the best I’ve got so far.
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Here’s a script for creating a contact sheet:
https://aeportal.blogspot.com/2010/12/contactsheet-ae-script-creates-contact.html———————————————————————————————————
Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
After Effects Help & Support
Premiere Pro Help & Support
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That’s pretty cool– still lacking in automated metadata embedding, but perhaps this script combined with the On Location spreadsheet export could be a way of getting what I want.
I’d still love it if this could all happen inside Premiere, where thumbnails and metadata already live, instead of using After Effects and On Location. coughwinkhintAdobe
Thanks for your help, everyone! I’ve also been in touch with the people who make Final Print to see if they can support Premiere’s codecs.
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You can submit feature requests (and bug reports) here: https://www.adobe.com/go/wish
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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
After Effects Help & Support
Premiere Pro Help & Support
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Is there any update on this with regard to Creative Cloud in it’s current state?
I operate in the field without director/editor or producer supervision…so I need a really strong tool to give footage notes to my post team. They have been doing it on paper – and want that element as a _backup_ but in terms of actually doing it – I add my notes to the comment field of the Premier XMP…Can you post some links or your own workflows that might work in CC?
We are producing quasi reality shows that do not go from a script – so “Adobe Story” would be way overdone –
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