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  • Posted by Eli Mavros on November 12, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Does anyone know of a comprehensive article about all the gamma shift business between Macs vs. PCs, computer monitors vs. broadcast monitors, and quicktime vs. FCP vs. After Effects? This stuff seems to always be confusing to me and most others I work with.

    Thanks,
    Eli

    Sam Featherstone replied 16 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    November 12, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Well that’s beginning to change with Snow Leopard FWIW…

    But Mac’s have traditionally displayed gamma at 1.8 and PC’s at 2.2 So this means that if you used a pre Snow Leopard OS, what appears on a Mac as being OK, will appear on a PC as being too dark. That issue has been what’s been around. HOWEVER… if you’d used h.264 as a codec, it’s smart enough to know if it’s being accessed by a PC so changes the gamma automatically. Other codecs didn’t do that…

    Does this help?

    Jerry

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  • Dan Daube

    November 12, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Here’s some info and really a history of how this all started especially relating to Snow Leopard:

    https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2009/09/why_your_web_content_will_look_darker.html

    Here’s what gamma is from Chris and Trish Meyers:
    https://help.adobe.com/en_US/AfterEffects/9.0/WS44E9CED2-117D-4c19-879E-D553BB88B886a.html

    Some more adjustment info from Apple:
    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT2026

    We’ve dealt with the issues for some time working with broadcast video which is basically working in the 2.2 gamma in most instances. So trying to get a true representation with monitors especially as we move more into the file-based world can be a little daunting-hope this helps!

    Dan Daube
    Director-Editorial Turner Studios Atlanta
    Manager Multiple Systems-FCP 7.0.1 AJA Kona

  • Eli Mavros

    November 12, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Thanks for the insight guys. Jerry, strange thing is, a co-worker is claiming to be having some gamma issues he thought he had solved, even though he is running Snow Leopard. Dan, helpful articles…I actually just had to deal with this whole gamma problem when working on a Turner project! Think we got it all squared away for that one, just looking to get a grasp on this whole thing for future projects.

    Thanks,
    Eli

    Eli Mavros

  • Paul Figgiani

    November 12, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Check this out as well:

    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3712

    -paul.

  • Gary Adcock

    November 13, 2009 at 11:37 am

    [Eli Mavros] “Jerry, strange thing is, a co-worker is claiming to be having some gamma issues he thought he had solved, even though he is running Snow Leopard. “

    I am going to bet that they upgraded to Snow rather than a clean install.

    When users upgrade FCP workstations to Snow, the QT gamma bug persists since the upgrade does not remove the older version of QTPro.

    if you do not trash all of the older QTPro pref files, and then trash QT 7 ( the QT7.app will be in the Utilities folder) and reinstall ( i had a serial number- not just the QTPro Free that comes with FCS)

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
    Chicago, IL

    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

  • Sam Featherstone

    December 22, 2009 at 12:53 am

    Hi Gary,

    I did exactly what you mentioned, installed FCS3 on Leopard, upgraded to Snow (some months later) and appear to still have the gamma bug.

    I can’t seem to find any more information on deleting QT7 and its prefs on the net, well at least not in reference to this particular issue. Perhaps you could point me to a forum post that I’m missing or tell me more specifically what files need to be deleted?

    Thank you for your help,

    Sam

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