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[David Issko] “I read about your misfortune with 2 (i think you mentioned 2) Mediavault units failing in quick succession.”
No it wasn’t two units that failed. It was a single unit with 2 issues at a very bad time in our production cycle. Again, a major fluke and I would still highly recommend Ciprico arrays. I would have gone back and purchased a new 4210 right now if I didn’t know about the Cal Digit units. Quite honestly, if you want multi-stream, 10bit uncompressed HD, talk to Ciprico, I was getting almost 500mb/s on the 4210. It’s a heck of an array.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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The Cal Digit S2VR will absolutely do 10 bit uncompressed HD, in the 5 drive configuration. Other manufacturers, like Sonnet, will do uncompressed HD with 10 drives (as will the CalDigit), but if budget is a concern, the CalDigit is the only 5 drive SATA II array that will perform at these speeds.
With that said, most people are dealing with DVCProHD, HDV, DNx220, and other compressed HD formats, that do not require the 230mb/sec that the 5 drive CAL Digit S2VR will do. If you put two 5 drive bays onto a SATA card (Sonnet or CalDigit) and stripe all 10 together RAID 0, you will get over 450mb/sec – far exceeding what 1080i HD-SDI uncompressed demands. YES, this is dramatically faster than a 14 drive Apple XServe RAID.The Ciprico HUGE Systems fibre channel arrays are amazing, the customer support is superior, and the only bad thing I have to say about them is that they cost more than the SATA products on the market today.
Bob Zelin (I couldn’t think of anything nasty to say, but I will work on it).
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[Bob Zelin] “With that said, most people are dealing with DVCProHD, HDV, DNx220, and other compressed HD formats, that do not require the 230mb/sec that the 5 drive CAL Digit S2VR will do.”
Absolutely you don’t “need” the extra speed of these drives for compressed HD formats, but as you and I both know, the more speed, the more RT you get in your work. I could keep editing DVCPro HD on FW800 drives, but I really like getting 3 Way CC, Levels and Broadcast Safe filtering all in realtime while editing. The only way to do that is to get faster drives.
Also, the more overhead you have on speed, the less likely you are to get dropped frames and all kinds of other performance issues that plague so many systems on these forums. You don’t “need” the 500hp Mustang, but it sure makes getting around town a lot more fun!
230mb/s is just awesome for a 5 drive array and at the price point of these units, we’re able to add storage and additional HD support to our shop so it’s a win / win.
But honestly if I was doing nothing but 10bit HD Uncompressed all day, everyday, I’d spend the money on Ciprico and bring the 4210 back into the shop.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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How absolutely rude you are 🙂
Thanks very much for great info so quickly. You good teacher, me read post very CAREFULLY and understand.
Also good to know about choices.Cheers
David Issko
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You have been most helpful
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[David Issko] “I am interested in the Caldigit Pro but if fibre channel (say Ciprico Mediavault 4210) would be better suited to HDCAM, please advise as best you can.”
fibre is definitely the way to go if you are doing 1080 uncompressed, My 4105 failed and I was told the parts are no longer available for the 2 year old unit. I am very pleased with my G-Speed 4 gig fibre and I am getting better than 200 mgs a sec in RAID 3.
gary adcock
Studio37
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[gary adcock] “fibre is definitely the way to go if you are doing 1080 uncompressed, My 4105 failed and I was told the parts are no longer available for the 2 year old unit. I am very pleased with my G-Speed 4 gig fibre and I am getting better than 200 mgs a sec in RAID 3.”
The Cal Digit Pro actually will be Fibre Channel. I’m surprised Ciprico did not offer you some other options with the 4105 for replacement.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[gary adcock] “My 4105 failed and I was told the parts are no longer available for the 2 year old unit.”
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So that’s it? Nothing? No replacement?
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Unfortunate as it was, it was during the change over from Huge and our buddy Don M had not yet joined Ciprico at that point.
Funny how everyone thinks we (as leaders) do not have the same issues with hardware and software that everyone else does (as I battle thru conversion to a new intel laptop- which is not as easy as it should have been)
gary adcock
Studio37
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It’s not the issue that surprises me, it’s the lack of support. The 4105 (and all Huge/Ciprico products) have 3 year warranties and it bums out that it wasn’t honored, as I stare at my 4105 that is humming away faithfully pushing pixels around.
Wouldn’t it be nice, though, if you as leaders were abstained from all issues?
Jeremy
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