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Future update to add XML, Multicam and importing of old projects?
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[Chris Kenny] “Adding these features is not a reaction to the Internet freakout. This is just a typical case of Apple shipping a first-generation product with a stripped down feature set, with the full intention of building on it.”
Chris,
Having now read very many of your posts I can’t help but notice that you consistently speak with a POV that implies that your conjecture is “fact.” Do you have an inside track, or is your ability to read minds better than the 50/50 of those Creative Cows whose own theories you consistently correct?
I’m not suggesting you’re right or wrong about the things you postulate, just that the voice you give to your take on the inner workings of the minds at Apple is said with such great certainty.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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[David Roth Weiss] “Having now read very many of your posts I can’t help but notice that you consistently speak with a POV that implies that your conjecture is “fact.” Do you have an inside track, or is your ability to read minds better than the 50/50 of those Creative Cows whose own theories you consistently correct?
I’m not suggesting you’re right or wrong about the things you postulate, just that the voice you give to your take on the inner workings of the minds at Apple is said with such great certaint”
Honestly, WTF? I am repeating things here that Final Cut Pro product managers have told to (among other people) a New York Times columnist, and people are trying to pretend these things are simply speculation on my part.
Seriously, it’s all right here.
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Chris Kenny – “It’s hilarious to me the extent to which people will simply disregard or dismiss facts that are inconvenient for their arguments.”
There are no facts at this point, there are just words. Facts exist when there is physical evidence available. Its not what is said, it is what is done…
I find the naivete of folks desperate to believe pr from Apple (who has a long track record of disregard for their customers) and a policy that disdains any good communication (unless they are in damage control mode), is pathetic to me. Believe what you want if it makes you feel better. Only time will tell. For the moment FCP X either works for someone or it doesn’t. The choice is up to the individual.
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[Tom Daigon] “There are no facts at this point, there are just words. Facts exist when there is physical evidence available. Its not what is said, it is what is done…”
This entire discussion is about Apple’s intent. Words can convey facts about intent. Do you believe Apple is lying about its intent to add these features?
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Chris, as I end this pointless dialog, its clear to me you have no concept of what a fact is. I think you need to consult a dictionary rather than keep blathering at this point.
Tom Daigon
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[Chris Kenny] “I am repeating things here that Final Cut Pro product managers have told to (among other people) a New York Times columnist, and people are trying to pretend these things are simply speculation on my part.”
I’m actually glad you chose Pogue’s NY Times article as the example to discuss. There are many other examples, but this one is perfect because you’ve chosen to cite a professional journalist in this case, which happens to be right up my alley.
As I’ve already mentioned elsewhere, David Pogue never quotes a single human being, alive or dead, from Apple by name, and there’s been no official documented word yet released from Apple. So, the certainty with which you counter the arguments of others here by quoting what can best be characterized as “hearsay,” is now beginning to have a cumulative effect that is starting to raise my hackles and the needle on my truth meter.
I am not a member of the Cow police, nor do I play one on TV, but as a journalist myself, and as one of the FCP leaders, and as someone who reads all things that come across the various FCP forums, I’m just letting you know that you’ve attracted my attention. and in the essence of fairness, I may ask you to support some of the facts you cite from time to time, which I hope you won’t mind.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[David Roth Weiss] “As I’ve already mentioned elsewhere, David Pogue never quotes a single human being, alive or dead, from Apple by name, and there’s been no official documented word yet released from Apple. So, the certainty with which you counter the arguments of others here by quoting what can best be characterized as “hearsay,” is now beginning to have a cumulative effect that is starting to raise my hackles and the needle on my truth meter.”
We have now heard essentially these same things from three different sources: Studio Daily, David Pogue, and Philip Hodgetts. You can choose to believe Apple is lying, or that all three of these sources (who all claim to have had direct independent contact with Apple) are lying about or consistently misinterpreting what Apple said. But these things seem quite unlikely. It is simply not reasonable at this point to continue to believe that Apple has no intent to add these features.
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[Tom Daigon] “Chris Kenny – “It’s hilarious to me the extent to which people will simply disregard or dismiss facts that are inconvenient for their arguments.””
Mr. Kenny likes to counter arguments by referring to his words as “fact,” while often citing hearsay to backup his arguments as though his message is absolute. As I’ve told him, the cumulative effect of his continuous and unrelenting attempts to counter other Creative Cows with the certainty he tries to project is beginning to grate on me.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[Chris Kenny] “We have now heard essentially these same things from three different sources: Studio Daily, David Pogue, and Philip Hodgetts.”
You’re beginning to remind of the guy who wrote yesterday that FCP X is “‘AWESOME” because, even though he’s never used it, he’s read the manual.
Again, you cite as fact quotes from three people who cite unnamed officials from Apple, who could just as easily be from Apple’s public relations department, assigned to damage control detail.
Do you know a fact when you see one?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Again, you cite as fact quotes from three people who cite unnamed officials from Apple, who could just as easily be from Apple’s public relations department, assigned to damage control detail.”
Pogue explicitly said he talked to “product managers”. Anyway, this is just another way of saying “Apple is lying”. Which is possible, but not very likely.
[David Roth Weiss] “Do you know a fact when you see one?”
You’re simply grasping at straws here, to create doubt about information that doesn’t support a particular narrative. Meanwhile, everything piece of information that does support that narrative has an obvious alternative interpretation.
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