Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels

[Ty Ford]

Hello Jason and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

How are you defining a dipped mix? What’s dipped and what isn’t?

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Ty Ford

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[Jason Grigg]

The APT specs for my Music and Effects track requires “full mix levels, not dip mix levels”

[Peter Groom]

Hi
This is for an M&E submission. Dipped stems or mixes are where the music or effects would “dip” under say the Voice over. If they specify undipped, then this means that if the put a different length foreign language on it for example, the underlaying m&E mix wont dip where the old vo used to be, but not with the new one.

Just mix it without the vo and leave the relative values between effects and music the same but dont mix them under the vo

Peter

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Peter

[Jason Grigg]

Perfect! Thank you very much Peter.

[Peter Groom]

Hi
Just to add. i should have put this on the priginal post.
Clearly as theres a use for dipped stems, just like theyre a problem in other cases, theres often the need to produce a whole raft of what are called “deliverables”

All M&E
5. 1 stems dipped
5.1 stems un dipped
Stereo dipped
Stereo un dipped

Clearly with so many requirements, on a system like Pro tools, its worth investing the time setting up a VERY complex routing and monitoring matrix to do ALL the deliverables in 1 pass. Not a problem when its 30 seconds, but a 90 min film is a different matter.

Peter

Peter

[Jason Grigg]

Cool! Thanks for sharing you’re knowledge