Frustrated by lack of .avi render options

[D. Eric franks]

First, Cinepak has been around since about 1991 and hasn’t really been useful since MPEG-1 came along and computers became fast enough to play it back. In other words, Cinepak has been a dead codec for about a dozen years! Second, AVI is an ancient format, but you can plug a lot of different options into it still.

More to the point, try installing the DivX codec and see how that works out. If you aren’t worried about file size (and, quite frankly, you shouldn’t be, since this is just an interim process involving temp files and disk space is cheap), then you can render out to AVI Uncompressed. This will result in even short files in the tens of gigabyte range.

[John Rofrano]

> try installing the DivX codec and see how that works out

With all due respect ( and Eric, I do have a lot of respect for you… love your tutorials ;-)) I would not use a highly compressed delivery format such as DivX as an intermediary between Vegas and VirtualDub. You want to use a lossless codec like HuffYUV or Lagarith, or near lossless like CineForm for this purpose. Both HuffYUV and Lagarith are freely available on the internet and will show up in the codec list for AVI of both Vegas and VirtualDub once installed.

> …sony just crahsed vegas each time

This should not be happening. The Sony YUV codec has a 720p setting and it works fine for me. This is an excellent intermediary codec as well.

> So which one would you go for for rendering to avi?

I would use Lagarith. It’s lossless, it has both 32-bit & 64-bit versions, and it’s free.

> Can’t understand why my version hasn’t installed with an easier set of options for rendering 720 to avi.

It is unfortunate that with Vegas Pro 9.0, Sony stopped shipping the CineForm codec which is an excellent HD intermediary. If you do a lot of HD work, you might want to purchase a copy of Neo Scene for $99. IMHO, CineForm is a mandatory tool for HD shooters that use 3rd part applications outside of Vegas (I do all of my After Effects work in CineForm).

~jr

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[Mike Thompson]

Hooray, just the answers I’m looking for. Thanks to you both. It would be better still if virtualdub would accept the .mov from my canon sx200is cam, apparently they’re h264 or something, I’m not sure why virtualdub won’t, but there we go.

Thanks for your concise answers.

I’m currently making a vid for my local sports club, and really struggling to organise and distil the 200 or so clips I’ve gathered so far. It seems I need to make a lot of subclips to extract the juicy bits from otherwise too long cliips, but find it difficult to keep track of all the files in vegas’s explorer.

[D. Eric franks]

I agree entirely, Mr. Rofrano: DivX is a bad choice for editing. I will have to try AVI+Lagarith, but I have to admit that I use QT (animation) for almost all of my intermediate work, although the latest fiasco with the 7.6.4 version (DON’T install that one -stick to 7.6.2) might have me coming back to AVI. Great advice and thanks!

[Bob Peterson]

Where does one find the 7.6.2 version? Apple slipped 7.6.4 in on me before I became aware of an issue in Vegas.

[John Rofrano]

> Where does one find the 7.6.2 version?

QuickTime 7.6.2 for Windows: QuickTimeInstaller.exe

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Bob Peterson]

Thanks very much.

[Theo Van laar]

The problem with quicktime 7.6.4 should be fixed in the latest V9c version…

Theo

[Mike Kujbida]

One of the many bug fixes in Pro 9.0c:

Fixed an issue reading QuickTime audio when using QuickTime 7.6.4

Sure hope this works!!

[Mike Thompson]

Here is my final movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz10zOg2vzA

To be honest I’m kinda disappointed with the way it looks on youtube, even with the HD button ticked.

I wonder if I’ve used the wrong settings, though I did the quality and bitrate bumped up high, and the file I uploaded (250mb) looks pretty good. Any tips?

Everything was shot on a canon sx200is compact camera

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