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  • From AJA Kona to laptop…

    Posted by Michael Niemcewicz on May 31, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    A long time ago I cut a job on the system equipped with Kona – capturing footage through SDI probably using 8-bit NTSC codec. Now the client asks for a DV quicktime of the show and my laptop tells me that the codec is missing. Duh. however rendering at DV compression doesn’t help. Is there a way I can use that footage without Kona?

    Ben Holmes replied 18 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    May 31, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    Install the Kona drivers on the laptop. That’s what I do.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 31, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    What is your source for the video you need a file of?

    send em a dv tape. dub it.?

    Jerry

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  • David Roth weiss

    May 31, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    Actually guys, the Kona 8-bit uncompressed codec and the Apple 8-bit uncompressd codec are now one and the same. That changed quite a while back when it was decided that the Blackmagic codec (used by AJA too), even though slightly better, was creating too many issues for FCP users.

    So, in other words, playback of 8-bit uncompressed video does not require installing the Kona codecs any longer. The Apple 8-bit unc. codec, intsalled with both QT and FCP, will suffice.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Simon Blackledge

    May 31, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    Slightly better? isn’t Uncompressed.. supposed to be uncompressed? :-/

  • David Roth weiss

    May 31, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    [pennello] “isn’t Uncompressed.. supposed to be uncompressed? :-/”

    Yeh, but beauty is in the eye of the beholding engineer too.

    Almost every video engineering decision has some degree of aethetic judgement involved. When engineers create a codec its got to look good too. Eevery set of eyeballs is different, and so codecs are not all created equal.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Walter Biscardi

    May 31, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    [pennello] “Slightly better? isn’t Uncompressed.. supposed to be uncompressed? :-/”

    There’s still a codec involved as in “COMpression / DECompression” to allow the computer to play the video files. Some of these codecs are cleaner than others, such as the Aurora codecs were actually the cleanest I ever saw on FCP. Media 100 had a fantastic codec that was always better in my opinion than Avid.

    So uncompressed can look better or worse depending on how the video is treated in the computer.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Ben Holmes

    June 2, 2007 at 8:41 am

    I always understood that the term ‘uncompressed’ here meant to imply that the codec was able to decompress the footage with no loss of quality – no perceptible loss anyway…. Obviously, the term ‘uncompressed’ is misleading, but remember that all video codecs involve compression, some are just lossless. Digibeta works on 2:1 compression, taking the 540Mb/s stream down to a more manageable 270Mb/s, and even HDCAM SR works at 440Mb/s (in single link mode I think) due to the advanced (but pretty damn lossless) compression used.

    Even the RAW format used in stills is actually a codec – nothing is REALLY uncompressed when transcoded to data from the optical source…

    Stupid name, isn’t it? Sounds good to clients though….

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd

    EVS & FCP specialists for live broadcast.

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