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  • Freeze Frame slows down incoming clip

    Posted by Bret Williams on May 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    So now I’m in deep in the first FCP X project. I need to freeze frame the end of a graphic from After Effects so I can transition out. Just add 1 second really. Simple editing 101, right? The hold frame thing looks like such a improvement vs. the old shift+N. Except the problem I’m having is that when I go to the end of the clip, and add a hold all looks well. It says the incoming is 100% speed, and the outgoing is 0%. But it’s not. The animation actually has some audio & video in it which is placed precisely in the timeline over where it came from. I’m using the timeline audio, but the animation has the same audio. Both are perfectly in sync. Once I add the hold frame, the “100%” speed clip starts in sync, but drifts out of sync over a whopping 10 seconds. Playing with the incoming speed and dialing it down to around 96% seems to get the sync back. Seems kinda ridiculous. I’m using 10.0.4. Anyone else seen this? This a bug from the start? Better way to make a simple freeze frame? Thanks!

    Tom Wolsky replied 13 years, 12 months ago 5 Members · 23 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 1, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Why not slice the clip at the frame you need frozen, move it out of the primary (command-option-up arrow) and apply the hold to the attached clip?

    Unless I am misunderstanding what is gong on…which can happen.

  • Bret Williams

    May 1, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    That seems like a workaround. But I was trying to avoid the whole sliced up mess that was FCP 7. Why do we rebuild an app from the ground up if it’s not going to be right? One clip is actually out of the primary, the one I was talking about. It’s an AE animation that includes clips from the primary below it. If it wasn’t for hearing both audios at once, I wouldn’t have noticed.

    I played with it on some longer video clips in the primary. You can try it. Put a clip in the primary, park the cursor and not the TC of where you’re asking the hold frame to be placed. It might be a frame or two later in the timeline when it gets placed. However, it will be the right frame that gets frozen. So, the incoming gets just a hair slower.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 1, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    This has been noted before.

    The problem (I think) is that FCPX has an ease in/out behavior on the keyframes going in and out of all speed effects.

    This was certainly the behavior in the original release and it looks like it still hasn’t been resolved.

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Bret Williams

    May 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Well that’s down right freakin idiotic. Fine for speed effects for broil, but their new little invention of the HOLD makes that just wrong when working with narrative.

    Is there a better way to get a freeze? I’ll try Jeremy’s method of just splitting the clip, then applying a hold to the second clip.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    I did this in under 8 seconds (see screen grab).

    freeze.png

    Jeremy

  • Bret Williams

    May 1, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    So what exactly did you do there? Split the clip, put a hold on the second part, move it to a secondary storyline, then roll the clip back out under it? 4 steps instead of cmd+H? (which lengthens the clips too, WTH?)

  • Tom Wolsky

    May 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Check the hold segment crop value in the inspector and make sure it is switched off and not set to Ken Burns. Use the reset button.

    All the best,

    Tom

    “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press
    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Coming in 2012 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 1, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    [Bret Williams] “So what exactly did you do there? Split the clip, put a hold on the second part, move it to a secondary storyline, then roll the clip back out under it? 4 steps instead of cmd+H? (which lengthens the clips too, WTH?)

    If you hold the frame in the middle of a clip, it “extends” the clip the amount of the hold.

    Actually, I optioned dragged the clip from the primary (copying it, and it doesn’t mess up the rest of the timeline), bladed it at the frame I want to hold, deleted the clip in front, make sure that the playhead is at the beginning of the new clip, and shift-H. You can trim off the end, and extend the red hold area for as long as you want. Turn down audio on the hold clip of course.

    You could of course do all this in the primary, too, just blade, hold, trim end and extend audio from preceeding clip.

    I find it easier to work on a copy, keeping the primary in place.

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 1, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    [Tom Wolsky] “Check the hold segment crop value in the inspector and make sure it is switched off and not set to Ken Burns. Use the reset button.”

    Ya lost me on this one.

  • Tom Wolsky

    May 2, 2012 at 12:00 am

    Click on the hold segment. It should appear selected. Look in the inspector to the Crop section. There’s a popup menu there. How is it set?

    All the best,

    Tom

    “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press
    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Coming in 2012 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand

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