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  • Frameserver?

    Posted by Marc Brown on June 22, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Somewhat shockingly, now that I’m nearing time to wrap up this gargantuan project I’ve been working on for literally months, I am not immediately able to find whatever option exists within AE (or externally) to frameserve to a separate application (encoder, in this case). I use such an option with Premiere Pro all the time.

    No way in the world do I have the space to store over two hours of raw 1080p footage.

    Really, am I insane? It seems to me that frameserving from AE should be such a popular option that the solution ought to be downright ubiquitous. Built-in, even. Yet I’m finding nothing.

    The other option on my plate is to see if AE can somehow render a PS3-compatible MPEG4-AVC. My understanding is that the PS3 is very particular about such things, and one really needs to use a special custom application such as Megui or XviD4PSP.

    Chris Wright replied 17 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Chris Wright

    June 23, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Virtualdub has frameserving that works in vegas, premiere, ae, and other nle’s. It’s free and needs no intermediate codecs. It makes a small ref file 200k and frameserves out nicely. If virtualdub fails, try lagarith or huffyuv lossless codecs uncompressed that store lossless mathematically compressed.

    H.264 compressed might not be good enough for your master transfer. ps3 can play blue ray, just encode to those specs and the 1.5x player @ 56mpbs/sec transfer disk should play fine. avc is h.264 in a wrapper.

  • Marc Brown

    June 23, 2008 at 4:10 am

    > Virtualdub has frameserving that works in vegas, premiere, ae, and other nle’s. It’s free and needs no intermediate codecs. It makes a small ref file 200k and frameserves out nicely.

    I don’t quite follow how that would work. My project is in AE. I need to frameserve from AE to the encoding app. In order to do this on Premiere Pro, for example, I make use of a “codec” called Debugmode Frameserver, which I installed and which Premiere Pro dutifully makes available as an option when exporting video. The Debugmode “codec” does not show up when I attempt to export from AE. In fact, AE’s export options are very limited compared to PPro’s, at least for me.

    > If virtualdub fails, try lagarith or huffyuv lossless codecs uncompressed that store lossless mathematically compressed.

    Yeah, just not realistic in my case. Two hours of lossless 1080p60, even compressed, would clock in at whatever.. 1 terabyte. Even were I not a simple hobbyist, that would be ridiculous, and, indeed, impossibly cumbersome. Otherwise I’d be all over it. ;p

    > H.264 compressed might not be good enough for your master transfer. ps3 can play blue ray, just encode to those specs and the 1.5x player @ 56mpbs/sec transfer disk should play fine. avc is h.264 in a wrapper.

    Far as I know, MPEG4-AVC ought to be the same thing, quality wise, as the Bluray AVC, as long as we’re talking about similar bitrates (40+ Mbps). If I had a Bluray burner and money to burn on probable failed attempts, I’d definitely look into that option. Fortunately, it seems I do have another option, and that is to make the MPEG4-AVC file and move it over to the PS3’s hdd.

    What I seem to be gathering is that there simply is no way to frameserve from AE to some other app. Plenty of ways to frameserve from other apps to AE, but that’s not what I need. I hope I’m wrong, because it’ll take me days to wrap my mind around such an inexplicable lack.

  • Chris Wright

    June 23, 2008 at 5:37 am

    oh i c.
    then its very simple if you have adobe premium.

    in ppro cs3
    file->import ae comp and then Dynamic Link out to Encore DVD from pp ro.

  • Chris Wright

    June 23, 2008 at 5:40 am

    oops, just do this, ignore last thread. This will get you a Blue Ray encode out of encore.

    In Adobe Premiere Pro or Encore, choose File > Adobe Dynamic Link > Import After Effects Composition. Choose an After Effects project file (.aep), and then choose one or more compositions.

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