frame rate problem

[Tim Kolb]

Is there audio on the clips that you need? (do they have to run at the original speed for this use?)

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor

[Chris Tompkins]

Which do you have more of?
What is your final deliver?
Is the 29.97 ” i ” or ” p ” ?

Chris

[Marko Milosavljevic]

Well, I have about the same amount of both video types. And videos are shoot with different camcorders, and both should be progressive, although Premiere doesnt see them as progressive when I go to modify video. For 29,97 it said that it cant recognize field order, and for 25 it said that is upper or lower, now I cant remember. But I know that camcorders make them as progressive. What do you mean “final deliver”?

Thank you for your fast reply

[Kris Merkel]

What Chris means by “Final Delivery” is the specification of the file format and framerate of the video you are giving you client, or posting to YouTube ect.

You have many options in PrPro and I would suggest in upgrading to at least 5.5 but preferably CS6 as you will be able to work with both framerates in one timeline.

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[Marko Milosavljevic]

Hi,

audio is not important, Im not gonna use it. Video is only thing that I need.

Thanx

[Marko Milosavljevic]

Well the final delivery should be something for YT, like H264. I didnt know that in CS6 you can work with different FPS on the same timeline. How is that working? What is final result?

[Kris Merkel]

I believe that it works like this (Someone else may need to confirm as I am not in the application at the moment) Bring all clips into your timeline Mixed framerates and mixed formats, the Mercury playback engine does the heavy preprocessing so you can view your content, then conform on output through AME for your final file.

“Think of everything in terms of building capacity.”

Kris Merkel
twitter: @kris_merkel
Product Manager, Flanders Scientific Inc.
http://www.shopfsi.com
Co-Founder, Atlanta Cutters Post Production User Group
http://www.atlantacutters.com

2.2Ghz MBP core i7
16Gb RAM
CS6/FCP7
AJA T-Tap
AJA IO XT
FSI LM-2461W/CM-170W

[Tim Kolb]

You can use multiple framerates on one timeline in CS5…any version of Premiere Pro since 2003 actually…

The key is which adaptation is most acceptable…and it tends to be a judgement call to some extent.

My earlier question had to do with you possibly modifying the framerate on one or the other set of clips depending on what the footage is…right click on the clip (or clips) in the project panel, and select ‘modify’ and change the interpreted framerate of the selected clips. My guess would be that the 29.97 stuff might be better at 25fps than the reverse…but I don’t know the footage.

If you mix them the way they are without framerate interpretation, make one sequence with a 29.97 framerate and one at 25 and mix few clips and see which way you think it’s less wonky…

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor

[Al Jensen]

If the 29.97 is interlaced you could telecine it to 23.976 progressive and then speed it up to 25 with very little noticeable difference in playback.

[Chris Tompkins]

Try running a test.
Create a sequence matching one of them. Drop a clip from the other format in there, export a clip, check it out.

Chris