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  • Frame rate of video affected by composite mode.

    Posted by Renzo Reyes on August 26, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Hello,

    I’m having a weird issue inside Final Cut. I’m working on a 1920x1080i 23.98fps square pixel Apple Pro Res 4444 sequence. All my assets are at 23.98 fps. I created a simple animation in AE, brought it into Final Cut an placed it on my timeline. So far so good. It plays back fine and smooth. But, when I set its composite mode to Overlay… every 2 frames it repeats the last frame… basically the playback on this clip becomes choppy….I really don’t understand why. If i go back to Normal composite mode then the playback is back to smooth. I made sure to render the timeline, maybe that was the issue… but no… checked the safe RT and Unlimited RT and no luck…. I even exported a quicktime using quicktime conversion and the same issue…
    Any ideas on why this?
    thanks

    Renzo Reyes

    Michael Gissing replied 16 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 26, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    [Renzo Reyes] “All my assets are at 23.98 fps. I created a simple animation in AE”

    Make sure to specify 23.976 in AE, not 23.98. It makes a big difference.

    Jeremy

  • Renzo Reyes

    August 26, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Thanks Jeremy. That actually did fix the problem. Who knew that going from 23.98 to 23.976 would fix it. Amazing.

    Thanks!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 26, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “A newbie can think 23.98’s a real-live frame rate, and then it comes back to bite him or her.”

    Totally. That would mean adding a digit and 29.97 would become 29.970.

    I think the whole NTSC broadcast industry should standardize to even frame rates. How bout 24.0! 60.0! 30.0! 😉

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 26, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “That can’t happen until everybody has all-digital receivers AND all-digital TV sets — no picture tubes. “

    And all cameras would need to be firmware updated everywhere, or simply thrown out and repurchased/remanufactured.

    Sounds like an economic stimulus plan to me.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 26, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Aunt Bertha needed to get DTV anyway!

  • Michael Gissing

    August 26, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Surely Jeremy, the answer is to standardise on 25 fps. After all most of the broadcast world uses this frame rate and it is a simple matter for cinemas to run digital projection at this rate.

    Death to decimal frame rates. Mind you a huge percentage of Cow posts will disappear overnight.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 27, 2010 at 12:05 am

    [Michael Gissing] “Surely Jeremy, the answer is to standardise on 25 fps.”

    Well, but of course! I’ll write a letter to the powers that be.

    [Michael Gissing] “Mind you a huge percentage of Cow posts will disappear overnight.”

    I woudl think there would just be new things to wrry about like, “I have a beta tape that’s 29.97, and need to get it 25. Help!”

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 27, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “I want smoother motion than that.”

    It would be 50fps in 720p.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 27, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “Not a whole lot of flexibility there.”

    If everything was shot at 25 or 50, it wouldn’t matter, which is Michael’s argument.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 27, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “I wonder how this scene will play out if I shoot at 15 fps instead? Or maybe at 12?””

    And you think that will make for smoother motion? What? 🙂

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