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  • formatted OSX drive, filesalvaged MXF files, now FCP?

    Posted by Jay Ingles on April 29, 2009 at 4:05 am

    so, this has trouble written all over it and i really how messy it will be to solve this. any and all insight is appreciated.

    Short of it:
    -I formatted an HSF Extended (not journaled) lacie Rugged drive (but a fast format, not full)
    -after format, immediately ejected bc i realized was wrong drive.
    -installed FileSalvage and have restored a whole lot of 1.mxf, 2.mxf … and so on files.
    -Thru Raylight (demo) i can view QT’s of the video (haven’t figured out audio or timecode)

    Since the directory structure was lost i’m looking to salvage anything that i can from the MXF files. Being that p2 aud/vid is separate i anticipate some severe issues but want to know if Raylight/P2ProLog will help…and if so, any thoughts on process.

    -Is there any hope of pairing audio or sussing that out in some way?

    -Where is the TimeCode info stored in MXF’s and is there any hope that i might be able to maintain QT’s with TC?

    -Worst-case, even if i can only get picture with timecode i can get audio from posthouse and sync lots to slate.

    I only have to do this for 3x16gb cards so its not as bad as it could be. As always with mistakes like these, im on an incredibly tight turn around…amateur mistake, but it happens.

    any and all thoughts appreciated!
    respectfully and eagerly await feedback,
    /josh

    Jay Ingles replied 17 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    April 29, 2009 at 4:23 am

    Oohhhh…I see. Sorry, on the Apple forums I didn’t think you had recovered anything.

    You ONLY have MXF files? NO structure at all? Wow…lemme see what I can play with on my end. I don’t have RAYLIGHT, but I have HDLOG, P2 Log’s bigger brother.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Jay Ingles

    April 29, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    thanks shane…appreciated.
    At this point i have ~600 .mxf files in a folder. If i organize the files by filesize i can determine which ones are most important to me bc they are the largest (2-3.5gb). This is a starting ground as far as priority of clips.

    I did a test iwth raylight on a small batch of files and it provided me QT’s but without audio (bettter than nothing). When i pointed raylight to the master dir with all the files it crashed.

    Although i had tried to ‘train’ filesalvage to search for video ‘.mxf’ files and audio ‘.mxf’ files by providing example files it didn’t determine the difference. So i believe all the mxf files in teh folder are a mix of vid and audio ones.

    Audio was recorded on separate data files as well so if i can isolate video (pref with TC, but if not ok) than i can survive.

    thanks again.
    /j

    jay

  • Shane Ross

    April 29, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    OK, HD Log will not import the P2 files without a proper P2 file structure. But MXF4QT imported the files just fine. And showed them as separate VIDEO and AUDIO files.

    mxf_files.png

    Now, do you have the video files only, named like 0083BL.MXF, or do you have the audio files too, with names like 0083BL01.MXF? If you have both you can marry them again in FCP by using the MERGE CLIPS option.

    I’m sure that Calibrated will allow this as well. Heck, I bet if you install P2CMS that installs a QT component that allows you to open the MXF files in QT you could do this. But I have MXF4QT, so that is how I did it.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 29, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    [jay ingles] “-Where is the TimeCode info stored in MXF’s and is there any hope that i might be able to maintain QT’s with TC? “

    Two places, really. MXF4mac uses the timecode information that is driven by the files that are in the ‘CLIP’ folder (which is the metadata XML). There is also timecode written in to the essence file of the video portion of the MXF files.

    So when you recover the files, you don’t get the original file structure back? You don’t have a backup?

    Yikes.

    Jeremy

  • Shane Ross

    April 29, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Ahhhh, yes. I forgot about that. ALL of the metadata is stored in the CLIPS folder in XML files that are linked to the video…named 0083BL.XML and so on. So if you need your Timecode information you need those files as well. But then don’t they need to be in the proper file structure for that to work with MXF4QT too?

    Wow, this mess is looking worse and worse. You can link the Audio and Video files via MERGE CLIPS, if you have both, but if you need timecode to link to the audio that was shot separately, this will be tricky.

    Jeremy, have to deal with stuff like this much? I didn’t think about this because I haven’t been presented with problems remotely like this.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 29, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    [Shane Ross] “But then don’t they need to be in the proper file structure for that to work with MXF4QT too? “

    Kinda. MXF Import doesn’t really care what the format of the clips are, but I would put all of your Audio in a CONTENTS > AUDIO folder, all video in a VIDEO folder (that is also in that same CONTENTS, this basically will create a dummy p2 card) and MXF Import should join the clips…maybe. It might also take the audio and video from the XML file as well. It’d be worth a shot, though. If not, you are stuck with merging clips and essence based tc which could be right or not.

    Jeremy

  • Jay Ingles

    April 30, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Thanks jeremy.

    The MXF files restored have been labelled 1.mxf, 2,mxf … 588.mxf etc. There is no separation or folder structure that exists. I dont know which are audio and which are video.

    Any thoughts on deciphering the two? Be it open in a text editor, or anything.

    If i sort that out i can use Raylight to batch convert the MXF videos so that at least i can have picture.

    jay

  • Shane Ross

    April 30, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    0083BL.MXF are the VIDEO files and 0083BL00.MXF, 0083BL01.MXF, 0083BL02.MXF, etc…are the AUDIO files.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 30, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    [jay ingles] “The MXF files restored have been labelled 1.mxf, 2,mxf … 588.mxf etc. There is no separation or folder structure that exists. I dont know which are audio and which are video. “

    Yuck. Sorry, Jay this will soon be a night mare.

    Usually the MXF files are named (for example) 001VY.MXF or something similar. The audio files for that video file would be 001VY00.MXF, 001VY01.MXF, , 001VY02.MXF, 001VY03.MXF. Perahps a different program will salvage the real file names?

    Jeremy

  • Jay Ingles

    April 30, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    THanks, i hadn’t realized the naming structure, but since i’ve lost the original file names i was hoping there might be a way to determine if the .mxf file is audio or video without having the “…BLXX.mxf” name.

    possible? hopeless?

    🙂

    jay

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