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  • Walter Biscardi

    February 17, 2008 at 2:42 am

    [Michael G] “And Walter, whilst I admire your optimism, I would have thought this made it easier for Sony to charge whatever licence fees they want.”

    It’s not Sony, it’s the “Blu Ray Consortium” or whatever it’s called. You actually have to first get your title approved by this consortium, THEN you are allowed to pay the license fee and proceed to step number two. This is the “Disney Rule” to keep porn off bluray discs, though that rule has failed miserably thanks to stand-alone blu-ray replicators like the one we own.

    So I’m hopeful that now that they have pretty much “won the war” all HD titles will be allowed to run commercially and they will drop the pricing.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Rafael Amador

    February 17, 2008 at 3:01 am

    Hi Jeremy,
    I’ve just bought a LaCie d2 for 665US$ in Singapore. I guess that prices in the States will be not much higher. I heard that it had some issues to play discs, but at the moment I just want it to store footage from the EX1. I’m still eons away from authoring in Blueray.
    Rafael

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  • Jim Calahan

    February 17, 2008 at 3:42 am

    Makes me want to go the itunes route to distribute our HD productions to the home user as long as Apple stays with Apple TV and other DVRs gain market share. SD DVDs will continue to be the most practical for the next couple of years or so. Solid-state media will continue to get larger and cheaper and win out in the end (silicon is cheap and a lot more reliable). We already have stopped shooting on tape (P2) except when we use outside contractors, still doesn’t make since for them yet.

    Jim Calahan
    KVIE, Sacramento

  • Nate Stephens

    February 17, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Jim,

    I am doing the shuffle over to P2 this year. What do you archive your P2 footage on??
    Or is it all shoot edit dump..

    In the Columbus market no station, tower or cable, is accepting TV Spots as HD. They have to be downconverted to Betacam SP….

    Anybody notice what the national/world intial preference for HD Spot deliverables is…

    Will it be Blue Ray disk, FTP, or do I have to save my nickels for a Panny 1400 or Sony Hdcam 1800???

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 17, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    [Nate Stephens] “Anybody notice what the national/world intial preference for HD Spot deliverables is…”

    Almost universally HDCAM, though DVCPro HD is also acceptable in some markets. You can only be certain by checking with the station / network in question.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Jeff Carson

    February 17, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Walter,

    I disagree about the future of HD tape format TV spot delivery. I think the reality in small markets will be ftp. – H.264 or some similar compressed, but robust file format. TV stations do NOT have real maintenance engineers any more. In fact, they are right now accepting DVD masters of spots at some stations in the midwest. So given the choice between a $100 “disposable” DVD player that can be hooked up by an intern, or a $20k (or more) HD deck that will someday require an engineer to maintain, you can guess why this was the outcome. They ALL have Digital File Server spot playback systems, and accepting ftp delivery should end up being easy enough for them… and they save the $200 on the BluRay DVD machine 😉

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  • Walter Biscardi

    February 17, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    [Jeff Carson] “Walter,

    I disagree about the future of HD tape format TV spot delivery”

    He asked what the formats are now, today. As someone who has delivered over 200 HD Broadcast Masters in the past three years, I can tell you that today, right now, it’s HDCAM and DVCPro HD.

    What the future will hold, I will not speculate. I will only accept what the stations and networks give me in their Technical Guidelines. What I think the stations should do does not matter one bit. The stations will do what they feel is right and then hand those specs to us.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Nate Stephens

    February 17, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Jeff, are you delivering HD Spots in HD yet? If so how..

    Walter, is writing what I have been hearing.. But the HDcam 1800 is 35K and the Panny1400 is 25K.. On Long format programing, yes these machines are needed. But how big is an HD 30 second spot?? Uncompressed 8 but Betacam SP averages around 1.5gigs perfect for FTP.

    I am hoping Blue Ray HD has a Broadcast Version, that will be acceptable to all.. Maybe Sony will surprise us at NAB…

    I am just polling the Cow for what is acceptable HD deliverables for 30 sec. Spots.

    It would be great to hear more stories.

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 17, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    [Nate Stephens] “Walter, is writing what I have been hearing.. But the HDcam 1800 is 35K and the Panny1400 is 25K.. On Long format programing, yes these machines are needed.”

    You don’t need to own any decks if you have rental facilities in your area or dub houses. We own two Panny 1400’s because all our work is DVCPro HD and it made sense for us to own them. All our HDCAM masters are created either via a rental deck or a dub house here in Atlanta that we have a great working relationship with.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR
    The new Color Training DVD now available from the Creative Cow!

    Read my Blog!

  • Jeff Carson

    February 17, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Sorry to have gotten off the topic of this thread here. Unlike Walter, we are not yet delivering HD spots to stations. But like many, we are trying to hit a moving target for the future. Our small markets (midwest markets from 40 ADI to 120 ADI) are not asking for HD today. However, we are producing and archiving everything in HD (some local spots may run for 1-2 years). Almost everything we send out is still on Beta SP (usually letterboxed). We have delivered beautiful looking 40Mb H.264 SD files to ftp sites for distant stations and national cable networks and have had no complaints. 40Mb?… surprises me too. This is what will make stations adopt ftp as a delivery method. We want to own (and do) the AJ1400 HD deck because we make a living with it. A small TV station makes a living from airing TV spots, and if they can get them delivered without buying hardware, they will.

    Maybe ( sort of getting back on topic here) BD will end up being a band-aid solution for these TV stations.

    Dual 3Gb Mac Pro Intel 8 Core, 5GB RAM, OS 10.4.11, QT 7.3, FCP2 6.0.2, CS3, AJA ioHD

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