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Force relink
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In Media Composer you can create a common metadata value in a separate column to use as the relink between a sequence and a clip. You can also adjust for timecode in one of the AuxTC columns if needed. It is not as straightforward as a direct force relink, but it can get the job done in certain situations.
Michael
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[Chris Frantz] “but they also would in Premiere right?”
No, Replace Footage works from TC not from frame starts or ends and hence you are relinking to the same absolute frames even if your start and end are completely different. If your new footage is shorter than the footage you are replacing, you will have blank frames where the footage is shorter – exactly what you want.
Simon Ubsdell
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[Chris Frantz] “Either way, force relinking should be done meticulously because things can get messy quick in any program.”
I’m not sure anyone is suggesting that you relink and don’t review the results 😉
Simon Ubsdell
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Good to know. In the two years I’ve been using FCPX professionally, and with tons of relink a along the way, I haven’t run into this scenario. What would be a real life example of a clip going out, then being trimmed on both heads and tails then having to be force relinked back? If it’s something from resolve you should be using a XML transfer instead, and if it’s something from AE, why make trims in AE as opposed to sending the right ins and outs to it from the NLE?
If that was an issue that I had, I think I would follow the same method as before, but first I would glance up at the new starting TC next to the replacement clip, punch that in, and overwrite. Then to match premiere you would have to hit home, c, shift delete, end, up arrow, c, shift delete. That’s certainly a few more steps, but it’s maybe a 3 second addition to the workflow.
Sorry for any grammar issues, punched out on phone.
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[Chris Frantz] “What would be a real life example of a clip going out, then being trimmed on both heads and tails then having to be force relinked back?”
We cut trailers and sales promos for movies so in almost every case we are working from a temp version of the movie (or temp dailies), which may or may not have logos, leaders, slates, end credits, etc., etc. We have to match this to final pictures (and sound) when they finally arrive which may or may not have matching logos, leaders, slates, end credits, etc., etc.
It does sometimes happen that the temp and final pictures have the same start and end – the law of sod being what it is, that’s about as often as it snows in the Sahara.
I should add that your workflow is about replacing multiple different clips, usually in your case with matching starts. Whereas our workflow is about replacing multiple instances of the same clip. It goes without saying that, in our case, if you can relink once, you have saved a massive amount of time. In your case clearly less so.
Simon Ubsdell
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[Andrew Kimery] “What about breakfast in bed and a gift basket on your birthday?”
Every year?
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
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Here’s what a “replaced” clip looks like in Premiere when the replacement footage is shorter than what you are swapping out:
Note the areas at the start and end that have been hatched out to indicate there are no source frames for these portions.
Simon Ubsdell
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You’re totally right, matching does usually occur for us we often do only replace single instance of a clip on a timeline. So you may have one master clip that’s used multiple times in the project but if you relink it once in premiere that ripples through to all your cuts in the timeline? That makes sense, but if it’s even one frame off, doesn’t that throw every clip out of wack?
If you did want to try this in FCPX, for one master clip in multiple instances a timeline, why not open then master clip in the timeline from the bin and replace with the new master within it? Wouldn’t that accomplish the same thing?
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[Chris Frantz] “That makes sense, but if it’s even one frame off, doesn’t that throw every clip out of wack? “
It pays to make sure that the TC of both clips is exactly the same – this is the necessary due diligence for this method. There are obviously a variety of utilities for adjusting the TC as necessary.
[Chris Frantz] “If you did want to try this in FCPX, for one master clip in multiple instances a timeline, why not open then master clip in the timeline from the bin and replace with the new master within it? Wouldn’t that accomplish the same thing?”
It doesn’t ripple through to the edited clips in the timeline, which is the object of the exercise here.
Simon Ubsdell
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Right ok, but then you could fly down the clips in your timeline hitting shift f, then shift r for a replace which should have your new master in it. That’s the backwards way of doing it though, because it doesn’t take your workflow in mind. You could just have easily started with your master clip in a compound clip. If you start your workflow with that you should be able to swap your master at anytime without even relinking and it would ripple down.
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