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[Mitch Ives]

[Bill Davis] “In fairness, Adobe, in particular, does NOT have that kind of history. They’ve always delivered and supported fine software.

I just still think they’re missing the larger trend of where content creation is increasingly going – and that’s more in line with where Apple is betting.

But I could certainly be wrong.”

Yes, we are talking about a company with a long history, not a startup like Red.

You could also be right about Apple’s direction… but sadly it’ll take some years to actually know…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.com
http://www.insightproductions.com

[David Roth weiss]

Dennis,

I gotta say, whoever named Rubadub should get the best name award for an app at Adobe if there is one.

Honestly, I just love the name Rubadub. On the basis of the name alone you guys absolutely need to include it your suite. That fact that it actually seems to work well really clinches it…

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

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[Darren Kelly]

Bill,

Don’t worry about Mitch and his condescending ways. He’s been doing that stuff for as long as I’ve known him, which is 1994.

Lots of people put him down, they just look at his work!

DBK

[Michael Gissing]

What’s the big deal. Rub a Dub is just the same as Vocalign which has been available for a decade.

https://www.synchroarts.com/index.php?PAGEID=products&ID=vocalign-pro-V4

Why put this software in an edit tool? It needs to be in the software that is being used to record the ADR sessions so that sync and performance can be checked before sending the fixed files back to the edit. Hands up how many times editors have been sent un synced ADR to fit.

[Dennis Radeke]

[Michael Gissing] “Why put this software in an edit tool? It needs to be in the software that is being used to record the ADR sessions so that sync and performance can be checked before sending the fixed files back to the edit.”

Good point. Adobe does make an audio product called Audition. Perhaps it will show up there.

[Dennis Radeke]

[David Roth Weiss] “I gotta say, whoever named Rubadub should get the best name award for an app at Adobe if there is one.”

Hey David – I totally agree! It is a great name!

[Dennis Radeke]

Shawn, I think you’re spot on. Historically, we’ve been the bread and butter of people like you and we certainly don’t want to stop delivering great tools to you.

From a business perspective, I think Apple sees this as the larger market and perhaps that’s some of the motivation for their direction. Of course only Apple knows for sure.

Dennis – Adobe guy

[Shawn Miller]

[Michael Gissing] “Why put this software in an edit tool? It needs to be in the software that is being used to record the ADR sessions so that sync and performance can be checked before sending the fixed files back to the edit. Hands up how many times editors have been sent un synced ADR to fit.”

Hi Michael,

I think it depends on the kind of work you do. This year, I’ve done a fair number of projects in which I cut animations and still images to scratch dialog tracks, and then replaced the audio with a final voice over (a workflow I don’t approve of, but can’t change). In those cases, rubadub would be perfect. I think it would be great in any workflow in which final dialog has to match rough audio… much better than having to tweak the edit IMO.

Thanks,

Shawn

[Michael Gissing]

I hear you Shawn. Obviously the refit should happen in the sound studio where the dialog is recorded. My experience of edit suites is that audio monitoring is poor and also fixing any audio that isn’t quite right requires sub frame edit accuracy.

No offence but very few picture editors have the skill set, tools and sync intolerance that us audio pros have. This software will be best in audio DAWs. It might be used effectively once in a blue moon in an NLE. All power to Adobe for developing another version of waveform sync software.

[Shawn Miller]

Hey Michael,

Not much to disagree with there. Then again, I started my career on the audio side of post-production. Hopefully, rubadub gets integrated into Audition as well as Premiere Pro. 🙂

Shawn