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For the MP Tube rackmount skeptics…
Posted by Charlie Austin on June 18, 2013 at 5:05 pmBooyah!
https://www.macstadium.com/blog/new-mac-pro-hosting-and-colocation-will-be-here-soon/
“270 Mac Pro servers per POD in only 12 square feet of Datacenter floor space.”
Oh, there’s a;so this tidbit…
Next generation Xeon E5 CPU’s in single or dual configuration with up to 12 physical cores.
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Chris Conlee
June 18, 2013 at 5:27 pmI’m starting to become a believer. Not related to rack-mounting, but interesting nonetheless…
Chris
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Dustin Parsons
June 18, 2013 at 5:42 pmIt was only a matter of time. Anyone who though these couldn’t be rack mounted because of their shape wasn’t thinking very hard.
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Craig Seeman
June 18, 2013 at 5:47 pmThat looks like the variation on my “wine rack” idea.
I do hope they do a real world physical test with the Tubes to ensure there are new heat related issues before coming to market.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/55540
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Walter Soyka
June 18, 2013 at 5:49 pm[Charlie Austin] “Next generation Xeon E5 CPU’s in single or dual configuration with up to 12 physical cores.”
I don’t believe them. I think they’re incorrectly assuming that the 12-core configuration comes from two 6-cores CPUs.
Here’s why I think they’re single CPU [link]:
The Mac Pro minisite refers specifically to “processor” and the picture shows room only for a single CPU.
Starting with Nehalem, Xeons have the memory controller on the CPU, and new Xeons use a quad-channel memory interface. There are only four memory slots shown, suggesting a single quad-channel interface and thus a single CPU.
The site also refers to “up to 12 cores of processing power.” The next generation E5 Xeons will offer 12 cores on a single CPU. If they were using current Xeons and had a dual-CPU configuration, I’d expect them to say “up to 16 cores.” If they were using next-gen Xeons with a dual-processor configuration, I’d expect “up to 24 cores.”
Walter Soyka
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Walter Soyka
June 18, 2013 at 5:53 pm[Dustin Parsons] “It was only a matter of time. Anyone who though these couldn’t be rack mounted because of their shape wasn’t thinking very hard.”
I don’t think anyone thinks they CAN’T be rackmounted.
They just clearly weren’t designed with rackmounting in mind.
Walter Soyka
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Michael Phillips
June 18, 2013 at 6:07 pmAn obvious rack configuration as long as you don’t have to connect something to any one of them…
Michael
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John Heagy
June 18, 2013 at 6:11 pm[Dustin Parsons] “Anyone who though these couldn’t be rack mounted because of their shape wasn’t thinking very hard.”
Nobody said rack mounting theses would be impossible, only difficult. One could rack mount a bowl of Jello if need be.
Data centers will not invest in a custom built mounting/cooling system that only supports a specific model from one manufacturer. Unless of course you specialize in offering dedicated Mac servers like MacStadium.
The vast majority of data centers run multiple virtual machines on a single CPU via VMWare, and would have little need for dual GPUs that only generate heat.
Now a render/encode farm would benefit but they are a drop in the bucket…
John
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Charlie Austin
June 18, 2013 at 6:11 pm[Michael Phillips] “An obvious rack configuration as long as you don’t have to connect something to any one of them…”
I’m sure they’ve probably considered that in the “pod” design….
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Walter Soyka
June 18, 2013 at 6:13 pm[John Heagy] “Now a render/encode farm would benefit but they are a drop in the bucket…”
But blades would be denser still, and don’t require custom tooling for data center installation.
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John Heagy
June 18, 2013 at 6:28 pm[Walter Soyka] “But blades would be denser still”
True, but blades aren’t know for their GPU power which a render/encode farm could take advantage of.
John
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