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for sale : Xrite Hubble and Xrite i1 Pro
Michael Cinquin replied 14 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 22 Replies
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Jake Blackstone
October 23, 2011 at 4:41 amYes and how this is any different from any post house, that uses, something like, say, Dolby monitor, calibrates it, profiles it, builds a LUT and uses it this way? Do you think, that Dolby monitor natively displays Rec-708, P3 or XYZ? Don’t you think Dolby uses the same types of internal LUTs to emulate those color spaces as FSI does?
You’re being silly. Calibrating monitors with third party hardware and software is a standard procedure, done every day by pretty much all post houses. Relying on a manufacturer calibration without regularly scheduled calibration is a sure way to defective product. Nothing against FSI monitors. They are stable, well calibrated and can be recalibrated at the factory, but they are not magic monitors and, as I already said three times, CAN be calibrated by the end users in the field.
I’m done discussing this subject… -
Michael Cinquin
October 23, 2011 at 8:32 amI’m well aware that it’s fine to do calibration, calibration is the key to the success of all the digital intermediates and dcps I’ve done in the past years. After having done quite a bit of research on the subject, I happen to have the opinion that it’s not an improvement to have a calibration system sitting on top of a good calibration system, aiming the same target. This is why I don’t use a LUT system on top of my FSI’s internal LUT
So you can leave this thread at peace, let’s change the tiny sentence you made all this fuss about into :
“FSI…, whose internal calibration cannot be adjusted by the end user unless she owns (or rent inside the USA) FSI’s calibration kit.” -
Jake Blackstone
October 24, 2011 at 8:35 pmMichael.
You’re keep misstating the facts still, but as I said, I’m not going to discuss it any more… -
Robin Erard
October 24, 2011 at 9:04 pmEhm,
Jake, I’m sorry to tell you that Michael is right.
FSI (with internal LUT (A) made by manufacturer) + LUT (B made by user)= good callibration
But LUT A cannot be calibrated without specific instrument that are rentable in USA but not in europe.
Michael says that he cannot calibrate the internal LUT of the FSI.
He can only act on luma, contrast, saturation but he can’t deeply modify the internal settings. This is not the case with some projectors, for example with my RS35 from JVC it’s possible to modify a lot of things inside the projector with menus. And like steve Shawn explains, “try to be as close as possible with internal settings of the projector before to build an external LUT (B).”
In this way, I understand Michael when he says it’s not possible to modify internal settings of the FSI without a specific kit.
Robin
réalisateur, scénariste, monteur, étalonneur
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Jake Blackstone
October 25, 2011 at 2:40 amDude. Please read my earlier post. FSI monitor is not any different from ANY OTHER MONITOR! Every monitor, except CRT monitor needs to have an internal LUT for emulating Rec-709, P3 or any other color space. I’m not talking about re-calibrating an internal emulation LUT. There is no need to do that.
Really, I’m done with this subject. This is ridiculous, you’re not even trying to read my response… -
Robin Erard
October 25, 2011 at 6:06 am“I’m not talking about re-calibrating an internal emulation LUT.” This is exactly what Michael wanted to talking about.
And Dude, yes, I read your posts and I was not agree with them.
Robin
réalisateur, scénariste, monteur, étalonneur
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Jake Blackstone
October 28, 2011 at 11:56 pmWhat a shocker, that you “was not agree”:-)
May be you should read my responses again… -
Robin Erard
October 29, 2011 at 12:10 pmNo comment… I won’t play this arrogant game with you.
réalisateur, scénariste, monteur, étalonneur
http://www.robinerard.ch
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