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For Mike Kujbida
Posted by Steve Rhoden on June 9, 2008 at 5:54 pmHey there Mike,
(even experienced editors need advice)…Pertaining to your
earlier respond to trey, what are your views on using raid
drives/system (raid controllers/raid array)for editing…any
experience of any significant advantages etc.
Never once in my ten years editing experience have i ever attempted
using this configuration…just a minute ago an issue popped up,and
just wanting to know from an editing view about raid configuration.Steve Rhoden
TNX EFFECTS STUDIOS.Bruce Quayle replied 17 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies -
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Mike Kujbida
June 9, 2008 at 6:24 pmSorry Steve but the only Raid system I’ve ever used was the one on my dpsVelocity and that came pre-assembled so I didn’t have to think about it.
At work and home, I use 3-drive systems with C being the the OS and programs, D being captured material and other raw assets and E being the edited masters.
It’s worked fine for me for several years now and, at this point in time, I have no intentions of changing. -
Steve Rhoden
June 9, 2008 at 6:44 pmThanks Mike
your respond is greatly valued.Use four hard drives in my editing bay
1….system drive
2….video capture drive
3….for all footages/stock footages
4….all audios/soundtracks/sound fx.Was just contemplating having a second bay oufitted with raid configuration….but somehow i was contemplating if it would be more beneficial or more of a headache to venture down that road..think ill stick to what has worked for years.(surprisingly i could get
recommendations from techies in this field who would point out the benefits and pros, but choose not to, they cannot view things
from an editing point of view towards our workflow.Steve Rhoden
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David Shirey
June 9, 2008 at 6:57 pmI used a 4-drive external raid enclosure when I edited on Media100, which was pretty crucial at the time. Nowadays with SATA internal drives it’s really not necessary. On the flip side, so many motherboards come with raid functionality built in, so it’s cheap and easy to string together two identical SATA drives and make it a raid array, but unless you’re doing a lot of multicam shoots in HD and have the CPU power to actually be editing them at a high resolution, I wouldn’t futz with it.
Just make sure that on systems with lots of internal drives you have proper cooling for the greatest longevity of components. And really that goes for external drives too. A photographer friend of mine would stack like 7 external Lacie drives together and leave them all on, even if he was only using one at a time. He had a real problem when one of them failed, but I really wasn’t shocked at all.
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Steve Rhoden
June 9, 2008 at 7:17 pmThank you David,
(forgot about the cooling environment required during those long editing hours)..LOL
Its always good to ask questions from comrades in similar fields.Steve Rhoden
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Bruce Quayle
June 9, 2008 at 7:42 pmHi Steve, Mike and David.
Please correct me if I misunderstand this: Are you saying that provided I have a hard drive running at 7200rpm, I don’t need an inbuilt raid system? I am looking at buying a Gateway P-172X FX with RAID 0…(as Steve is aware). Would it be better to keep the drives non raid? This would increase my storage capacity, but wouldn’t it slow down my editing in HD?
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Steve Rhoden
June 9, 2008 at 8:19 pmHi again there Bruce,
Dont worry about anything, go ahead and make your purchase, that
laptop is good to go for all your SD, HDV and HD field editing as
i advised you earlier. Just concentrate now on your film/video
output content.
My reference to raid was based on a large scale basis, that comprised
of building an entire film editing suite/bay with all the trimmings.Steve Rhoden
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Bruce Quayle
June 9, 2008 at 8:39 pmI agree Steve: Content is what it’s all about. I just want to make sure that I can edit while on location and as I’m going to be away from civilisation for extended periods, I need that system to be rock solid. I have had a comment that I should really look at having my editing program on a seperate drive to my media content. This would preclude a RAID format. But then would the system be fast enough for real time playback?
So many questions…so little knowledge! Sigh…
Thanks again!
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David Shirey
June 9, 2008 at 10:47 pmI just checked out that laptop, looks pretty nice. I had no idea people were sticking multiple 7200rpm drives in laptops nowadays. If you need something portable I’d say go for it, but if it generates too much heat try not to actually set it in your lap too often. Being in a laptop there’s really no way around having the OS on the same drive as the media, and I would think the speed gain from Raid 0 would more than outweigh any speed loss from having the program on the same disks as the media. Enjoy!
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Bruce Quayle
June 10, 2008 at 4:56 amThanks Dave.
Yeah, heat is a problem anyway in the tropics, so it won’t be anywhere near my lap I can asure you!
Thanks for the assurance that RAID 0 will be okay. I had a RAID system on my old DPS and was very happy with it, and like you it was a surprise to find it in a laptop…along with a really fast processor. I’ve been in this business for longer than I like to admit and have seen the evolution of video editing all the way from 2″ tape quad machines. Yikes! It’s just mind blowing what one can achieve these days…with a laptop for *** sake!
Cheers for now,
Bruce
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