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[Aindreas Gallagher] “So HA HA – you’re entire riposte came to nothing there Oliver. It is dust. boom.”
Actually my point is that just maybe, you were wrong and the client was right. Yet you executed the design at the urging of your client.
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well they put me up in milan and paris. I felt it would have been rude.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “I love a bit of split screen. We were super excited and I’d worked up some style samples – then they were all like – no negative space and ramp up the wiping please. so, you know, whatever, but fine. I just really wanted to do the thomas crown affair frankly,”
I spent some of my earliest working years, this is back in the 70’s, in a unique film animation studio that specialized in making films from stills and it also had a very primitive optical printer. We designed and animated split screens all the time, 4 screens morphing to 16 then piece by piece back to one and so on — lots of fun.
[Aindreas Gallagher] ” I’ll definitely check out twilights last gleaming.”
What made that application so great was the use of sound to direct your attention between the screens during a major crisis moment in the film – it doesn’t have the visual look of The Thomas Crowne affair, if I remember correctly, it just kept multiple vantage points of the story going continuously over an extended period of time and used brilliant audio editing and mixing to keep the narrative flowing. Now that I think about it, I’m going to have to watch it again.
Herb Sevush
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[Tim Wilson] “Saddle up, son. LOL The longer and angrier the better. LOL
“Well played sir, well played… 🙂
[Tim Wilson] “This has been my issue with the whole concept of Luddites, Dinosaurs, “stuck in the old ways,” or, worst of all “just doesn’t get it.” It fails to take into account the absence of EXTERNAL FORCES compelling change, or the absence of INTERNAL FORCES compelling change, not always, but sometimes purely for its own sake. “
Despite my occasional outbursts, I totally agree with you here. As you and Jeff point out, there most certainly are valid reasons not to use X, or any bit of software. Glens’ “don’t like it, don’t use it” comment is dead on. One – problem in my little world – is that even when presented with real, objective evidence that FCP X is in many ways a better choice given our workflow, people refuse to even consider it due to some weird herd mentality. Additionally, many people who don’t like X feel compelled to try to tell the people that do like it how foolish they are. To be fair, the compulsion to deride peoples choices comes from the X side as well. Mac vs. PC, iOS vs. Android etc. etc. My bone(s) of contention has always been with people that:
-Don’t use X because other people don’t use X
-Haven’t cut more than 1 or 2 simple things in X and are suddenly experts in all the things you can’t do, particularly when they are things you *can* do, just differently.
-Love to crap on any positive reviews, news etc about FCP X for no apperent reason.Conversely, it drives me nuts when people who use X, but have very little experience in other NLE’s are suddenly experts in all the the shortcomings of the NLE’s they don’t use. Examples of all these things are contained in this thread. 🙂
IMO, the most valuable, honest opinions come from people who have actual working experience in all the NLE’s we blabber about. If you don’t use X, or Pr, or MC, what on earth makes you think you are qualified to tell anyone anything about X or Pr or MC? If you poke around here at the cow and elsewhere, the most reasonable posts come from people who fit that bill.
Well, except for me, I meet the qualifications, but I just like to hear myself talk. 😉
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[tony west] “X is built around staying inside it as much as possible(with help from 3rd party apps that I saw him using) but saving time by not going outside.
The only thing faster than round tripping is no tripping.”Please explain how this is different from other NLEs. We have been able to do VFX, mixing, graphics, and color correction inside FCP 7, Premiere Pro, Media Composer/Symphony, Avid DS, Smoke and other NLEs to varying degrees for years if not decades. I’m not knocking X, just that I don’t see how one is staying in X anymore than you’d stay inside any of the other apps.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “oh well.. I’ll definitely check out twilights last gleaming. If bieberkopf was still around he’d probably have some insane examples too…”
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “[Jeff Markgraf] “Now they use Premiere out of a combination of fear and inertia”
This is the weird self aggrandising myth making of the X user. If you reverse that sentence the FCPX adoptee is thrusting, forward moving with courage and insight.
“I think you (and Tim) might be misinterpreting Jeff’s meaning when he uses the word “inertia”. I don’t interpret it in the the way you do at all. Here’s an example of inertia. People clinging to FCP 7, resisting learning Premiere, X, or anything. I live in this world.
Veering off topic but… For the love of Jeebus, let it go. It’s dead. You don’t have to use FCP X, but start using MC or Pr or fracking anything.
Especially because I can run these other NLE’s at he same time as FCP X. This makes my life a lot easier. 🙂
[Aindreas Gallagher] “It’s really funny is all. Funny and a little, little bit sad. And really ripe for a p*ss take”
And… there it is. Classic. 😉
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We were able to exploit the ease of x with “trying instead of talking”. we were able to illustrate notes and ideas hands on instead of exclusively trying to convey them verbally. All ideas were welcome and used. But that’s not exclusively how it worked. Sometimes jan would cut according to storyboards or the script and we would give notes. Sometimes we’d take a pass after his pass. Sometimes I would cut the first pass with John and give a scene the rough shape we “intended”, then pass it to Jan to get his interpretation of it. Sometimes john would work with jan poring through takes and honing tone and performance while I was cutting a montage. Etc, etc. all in all the process was a fluid conversation between us. There were zero fights because we were able to iterate quickly and go with what was best which I believe was the reason editors switched to NLEs to begin with. It was a terrific process but it was ours, not the only way.
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They got rid of Color for one and moved it inside of X
They want you to do much of what you might have done in Color inside X
I lot of people write about sending to audition for their sound mixing.
He didn’t mention any of that. He looked like he was mixing inside of X instead of sending it out.
I remember many saying X was hurt by not having a mixer. That didn’t seem to hurt Jan at all.
Once again, don’t ask me, ask Jan
That’s what he is talking about in the video that YOU posted.
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[Charlie Austin] “For the love of Jeebus, let it go.”
As long as proponents don’t come out with ridiculous language like the stuff that was in the article we’re all good.
to make the point again – I never mentioned the usefulness of X – I acknowledged it was bang on for some use cases some time ago.
It’s hilarious language like… oh I don’t know let me see now.
it’s right on the tip of my tongue. ah yes.
“I feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.”
You remember that gold right charlie? 🙂
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