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Flash drive update
If the article below turns out to be true, Panasonic cannot justify charging exhorbitant prices for their P2 cards.
Samsung Has Big Plans for Flash Drives
https://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,121589,tk,dn062405X,00.aspBillM
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[BillM] “If the article below turns out to be true, Panasonic cannot justify charging exhorbitant prices for their P2 cards. …”
Panasonic’s P2 cards contain 4 memory devices configured in an array for speed.
I have no idea if the new Samsung solidstate drives are fast enough for use in video cameras, especially in regard to DVCPRO-HD datarates.
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Panasonic will charge whatever price the market will bear. If the market feels that the price is too high, they won’t buy them.
The great thing about the HVX is that it can use whatever technology — anything that can capture the firewire stream can be used to record with. If someone makes a device that captures firewire data to these Samsung flash drives, then you could use those instead of P2 if that’s your preference. You’re not locked into any one solution.
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Different type of product, different type of market, different purpose. It’s a little like saying that Cadillac can’t justify their prices based on the price of the new Cris Craft. OK, maybe not quite like that, but you get the picture.
And there’s no reason yet to believe that the Samsung product will (or won’t) be cheap:
“Samsung hasn’t announced the price of the 16GB drive yet, but the target markets for the product–military and industrial computing–are typically willing to pay a premium for technology.”
They also say that the form factor for the 16GB product will be similar to that of a 2.5″ hard drive, so we’re not going to see a Samsung p2 card for next year.
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I believe that I saw a rumored price of under $1,000. And no, it won’t have a P2 form factor — but if it’s a quarter of the price of equivalent P2 capacity but with comparable ruggedness and reliability, it’s a fair trade. And I expect capacities to climb (and prices to drop) more quickly than P2’s because Samsung is not targeting this solution only to deep-pockets markets like the military and industrial sectors.
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It doesn’t do DVCPRO HD but the other formats are covered… all the way up to DVCPRO50. I would think this would be real helpful for those SDX800 users.
beak
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The Citidisk is perfect for use with the Sony Z1/FX1 HDV cameras. I doubt it’ll handle the bandwidth required for DVCPRO HD in its current configuration though.
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Derek is correct, in its current configuration the CitiDisk could not handle the 100mbps data rate of DVCPRO-HD. FireStore and DV Rack are working on having compatible products by the time the camera’s available.
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Was it already confirmed that 720p24 is 40Mbps?
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DVCPRO-HD maybe not. However DVCPRO50 yes, according to specs on website.
Which would eliminate the need for P2 cards in the SDX800 camera. (which is not DVCPRO-HD)
Right?
Of course most are more concened with the HD capture & storage, but its on its way I’m sure.
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720/24p is confirmed as being 40mbps on the card.
No, the CitiDisk wouldn’t work with it, as it doesn’t understand the data stream. But it might be a simple firmware fix to get it to work.
Yes, as beak said, it should probably work with the SPX800.
The bigger question is, will the CitiDisk work AT ALL? There were lots and lots of very unflattering reports about their earlier CitiDisk DV and its companion product the QuickStream DV. I would be very, very skeptical about any Shining Technology product until someone ELSE tests it in the field for a few months and gives it some glowing reports. Maybe they’ve ironed out the bugs and they now have a functional product, but… well, I’d rather someone else test it on their footage first…
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