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  • First Time Sony Vegas 6 User

    Posted by Juan karlo De guzman on August 6, 2005 at 3:28 pm

    I installed Sony Vegas last week and tried it yesterday and today. I liked the interface a bit, but in startup times, MediaStudio Pro 7 is faster.

    The interface is confusing especially when applying transitions. I liked Sony Vegas alot because of it’s cool Vido Filters and Transitions, but… rendering will take years! Even rendering into a draft!

    I will wait for Ulead MediaStudio Pro 8 … but for now, let me first try Sony Vegas …

    After installing Sony Vegas 6 from the Installation CD, the Sony Video Capture program does not work.

    Oh yeah, in MediaStudio, when placing transitions, you can manually change the transition’s duration … is it posible in Sony Vegas? Is there a way similar to that? And how will i really improve the rendering times?

    I have Combustion 4. I am planning to make a video where me and another me will be there… i think it involves masking… Which software is better to use? Combustion 4, After Effects 6.5, or Commotion?

    Terje A. bergesen replied 20 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 27 Replies
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  • Harold Brown

    August 6, 2005 at 3:49 pm

    I suggest that you review the manual, throw some video on the time line and experiment. Then come back here after a week or so and ask some questions based on at least a few days of working with the product.

  • Mark Moss

    August 6, 2005 at 6:37 pm

    I just encountered the capture problem as well. The great people of this forum instructed me to download 6.0B to take care of the capture problem. It worked beautifully. You may be having the same problem that I had. Go to the website and download 6.0b and see if that makes your capture problem go away.

    Mark

    Mark Moss
    Mossman Productions

  • Peter Wright

    August 7, 2005 at 1:30 am

    Hi Juan. You may find it confusing if you are not familiar, but Vegas has always had the simplest method of any for applying transitions:

    Place two video events on the same track … drag one so that it overlaps the other. You have created a crossfade which lasts for the duration of the overlap. To make it longer, overlap more.

    To change this crossfade to another transition, select a transition from the Transitions tab and drop it on the overlap.

    To respond to your comment regarding rendering time, we need more information about the factors which may make rendering faster or slower …
    e.g.
    What format is your material?
    What format are you rendering to?
    What are your project settings?
    Which effects have you applied?
    What specification is your computer?

    If, for instance, your material is standard DV, your project settings are standard DV and you are outputting DV, and no effects or titles etc are applied, there should be no video rendering necessary.

    Peter Wright
    Perth, Western Oz
    http://www.allroundvision.com.au

  • Juan karlo De guzman

    August 7, 2005 at 9:56 am

    [Harold Brown] “I suggest that you review the manual, throw some video on the time line and experiment. Then come back here after a week or so and ask some questions based on at least a few days of working with the product.”

    I tried it… that is why I figured out that rendering is really slow.

  • Juan karlo De guzman

    August 7, 2005 at 10:00 am

    [Mark Moss] “I just encountered the capture problem as well. The great people of this forum instructed me to download 6.0B to take care of the capture problem. It worked beautifully. You may be having the same problem that I had. Go to the website and download 6.0b and see if that makes your capture problem go away.

    Mark

    Mark Moss
    Mossman Productions”

    Let me try downloading it… probably next week because i’m on dialup…

  • Juan karlo De guzman

    August 7, 2005 at 10:03 am

    [Peter Wright] “Hi Juan. You may find it confusing if you are not familiar, but Vegas has always had the simplest method of any for applying transitions:

    Place two video events on the same track … drag one so that it overlaps the other. You have created a crossfade which lasts for the duration of the overlap. To make it longer, overlap more.

    To change this crossfade to another transition, select a transition from the Transitions tab and drop it on the overlap.

    To respond to your comment regarding rendering time, we need more information about the factors which may make rendering faster or slower …
    e.g.
    What format is your material?
    What format are you rendering to?
    What are your project settings?
    Which effects have you applied?
    What specification is your computer?

    If, for instance, your material is standard DV, your project settings are standard DV and you are outputting DV, and no effects or titles etc are applied, there should be no video rendering necessary.

    Peter Wright
    Perth, Western Oz
    http://www.allroundvision.com.au

    What If I want the transition to be exactly 1 second… in Media Studio Pro 7, it’s REALLY possible… The material is AVI file 320×240 compressed to PIC Video MJPEG 3 Codec… rendering and outputing is also the same…

  • Peter Wright

    August 7, 2005 at 10:16 am

    The Transitions in V6 have a read out (box in the middle of the overlap) showing their duration – drag the overlap till 1.00 is displayed. For finer control use the mouse wheel to zoom in first.

    Now, regarding rendering times – these are almost certainly caused by the fact that you are using an unusual format for both source and output – possibly there needs to be decompression and recompression in this process. Others may know more about this, so feel free to sdd comments …..

    Peter Wright
    Perth, Western Oz
    http://www.allroundvision.com.au

  • Edward Troxel

    August 7, 2005 at 11:18 am

    [Juan Karlo de Guzman] ” tried it… that is why I figured out that rendering is really slow.”

    Rendering *can* be slow but is not necessarily so. There’s some things you can do wrong that will slow down rendering speeds. There’s also some effects you can add that are really slow. But, overall, rendering speed is NOT bad.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Edward Troxel

    August 7, 2005 at 11:25 am

    [Juan Karlo de Guzman] “What If I want the transition to be exactly 1 second…”

    And it’s really possible in Vegas too. As Peter said, there’s a readout showing you exactly how long a transition is. You can also fine tune the length by moving the event using the 1 or 3 keys on the numberpad (which will move the event one frame at a time). However, the best solution may be to use a script. With a script, you could actually have it pop up a box, accept a timecode, and then move the event so that it overlaps the previous event by that specific amount.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Terje A. bergesen

    August 7, 2005 at 4:33 pm

    Hello Juan,

    I have used Ulead Media Studio Pro for a few years and I finally converted to Vegas this spring. I am much more productive in Vegas, and I can do things in Vegas that are simply not possible in Media Studio. The one thing that finally made me convert was fairly simple, but it put me over the top. I had to create a video snippet where I had one main video and a second running in the top corner (Picture in Picture style). The video in the corner was comprised of a set of clips, and I needed them to be synchronized with the main video. I also needed to have transitions (and that was the biggie) when the PIP moved from one clip to another.

    The only way to do this in Media Studio would have been to first create the PIP (small) video with all the transitions and then insert it into a new project with the main picture. A pain. In Vegas it was dead easy and accomplished in a couple of hours. I understand that this may be fixed in version 8 of Media Studio. I do not think I will go back though, the way Vegas works is just so much easier. Applying a 1 second transition is in fact a lot faster in Vegas than it is in Media Studio simply because I know exactly how long the transition will be when I overlap the two videos. Doing the same in Ulead means adding the 1 second transition and snap the videos to it. If I want to change the duration of the transition I will have to change the length of the transition then snap the two (or possibly just one) videos to it again. In Vegas I just make the overlap a second longer. Far easier.

    I find it odd that the rendering time is slower in Media Studio than it is in Vegas. I do not find that there is any significant difference. Can you please describe a little bit about what you are doing in the project and what you are rendering to?

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