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First non-FCP Legend gig in a long time.
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[Walter Soyka] “Oliver, I’m curious: what (if anything) did you miss about FCPX when hopping over to MC”
I like the key wording and smart collections and skimming in the filmstrips.
[Walter Soyka] “and what (if anything) were you most excited about having in MC that you miss in FCPX”
Better trimming, tracks, more robust interchange with other applications. Better and more reliable rendering. Easier to move media files and projects between systems. Easier to manage projects without a separate application. The fact that every little GUI interaction doesn’t have an associated animation to go with it. When I perform a keystroke, things happen right away. I know when audio is in sync. Better audio editing based on hearing audio and seeing a precise waveform.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Shane Ross] “I’m in a multiseat Avid setup with EditShare, and love the project sharing capabilities and solid media management. My previous gig was Avid too, and remote workflow…I’d just send the project file or CUTS bin back to Virginia and they’d reconnect without any fuss or muss. “
This reminds that I always wished Media Managing in FCP was as useful as consolidating in MC. Once you MM something with handles in FCP it’s very hard to go back to the source again.
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[Oliver Peters] “so many here seem to slam Avid systems,”
I’m not slamming it. I’m not qualified to – I’m simply saying the effects setup is funky, and I’m used to clip native geometrics – thats all.
As an aside – I’m not referring to you here – but avid editors are the most defensive people on gods earth when it comes to criticising any aspect of the software.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Hey Aindreas as a very long term Avid user have to say I agree with you about the FX set-up it really has never been Avid’s strong point and I much prefer the way Legacy handles it. In fact that was one of the main reasons that I used Legacy for my own work over Avid. That and the need for expensive Avid hardware at the time. Now my Kona 3 works so well I am slowly reverting to Avid in all scenarios but hell yeah the FX can be “funky”
[Aindreas Gallagher] “but avid editors are the most defensive people on gods earth when it comes to criticising any aspect of the software.”
Really ? I have not found that so much, everyone has a good old moan about this or that, at least among the places I work.
best wishes
Neil
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “I’m not slamming it. I’m not qualified to”
and yet you’re qualified to slam FCPX? 🙂
Steve Connor
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indeed good sir, I know no one believes me, but I have actually been at FCPX half properly for a while now. way more than avid, and lets face it – that just makes no sense.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas Gallagher] ” I’m simply saying the effects setup is funky, and I’m used to clip native geometrics – thats all”
I completely agree. That being said, I’ve been able to do more sophisticated compositing on Media Composer than I ever have in legacy or now in X. In spite of the fact that MC is generally regarded as a pretty poor compositor. I’ve successfully driven composites 50+ video tracks deep through collapsing on a system that technically maxes out at 24 video tracks.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “but avid editors are the most defensive people on gods earth when it comes to criticising any aspect of the software.”
LOL. With the possible exception of folks here! 😉 OTOH, just get in the middle of some of the DS versus Symphony battles! Oh baby….
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “[Aindreas Gallagher] “but avid editors are the most defensive people on gods earth when it comes to criticising any aspect of the software.”
LOL. With the possible exception of folks here! ;-)”
I can also tell you from having worked at Avid, those editors are the LEAST shy about criticizing Avid for any and everything. LOL I have no problem with that, nor did I at the time.
But I think you’re talking more about 10 years ago Aindreas, when Avid editors felt under seige by FCP, and were being defensive about their JOBS — a lot of the same dynamic here in the first year of FCPX. The difference being that Avid guys were actually losing jobs, whereas I don’t know of anyone whose lost a job to an FCPX editor.
By the time I left Avid in 2006, I’m not sure I could have named you an Avid editor who wasn’t also using FCP, or at least someone else in the office, and using it for real work. Indeed, Avid editors also using FCP was the basis for a considerable amount of their criticism and feature requests to us.
That’s an issue in this forum, yes? Talking about the present when we say we’re talking about the present? LOL
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ara sure – I’m generalising off not a lot, just a few soho guys, and well, basically my mate, who’s a senior online – he gave us the days worth of intensive avid run down – there’s tons of seriously good stuff – I mean, Avid’s a tank really, and that whole throwing bins around stuff is truly neato – but my lord he took some umbrage when I started getting snarky about effects living inside effects, I unwisely chose to up the snark, and the umbrage went rapidly to code amber. 😉
it required tea and biccies diplomacy to defuse the situation. hob nobs.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “it required tea and biccies diplomacy to defuse the situation. hob nobs.”
Hob Nobs! – now thats like defcon 2 – you must have hit his snark bomb.
I mean where do you go if Hob Nobs fail ? A custard creme isn’t going to cut it. I can only imagine a chocolate Hob Nob is left ?best wishes
Neil
http://www.patience.tv
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