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  • Posted by Larry Watts on December 28, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Hi,
    We are putting together our first 30 min. Tv program in FCP after years with Sony Vegas.

    For some reason we put actual black, bars and tones, slate etc on the timeline for the full 30 minutes instead of using the program to add the media when printing to tape.

    I need to decide which way to go in FCP. If we don’t put the bars and tones etc on the timeline I’m concerned that the closed captioning may not have pre roll time to sync.

    Anyone have some ideas as to workflow?

    Thanks!

    Larry

    Eric Susch replied 16 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    December 28, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    I always put bars, tone, and slate right on the timeline. It’s just more foolproof that way.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

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  • Doug Beal

    December 28, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    We also do that.
    set sequence time to appropriate start time usually 59:00:00 except PBS and a couple others.
    40 sec bars (tone set to -20db) 5 sec black 10 sec slate 5 sec black PGM at 01:00:00:00
    we also enable trailer black min 30 sec on mastering settings. Just remember to deselect trailer if you are inserting into a tape to fix a small segment or it’ll print black for 30 sec after your out point

    Doug Beal
    Editor / Engineer
    Rock Creative Images
    Nashville TN

  • Eric Susch

    December 29, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Same here. I like my final timeline to be an exact reproduction of the master tape, including the bars etc. that way if someone calls and says your master is horked you have evidence to prove them wrong 😉

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  • Neil Sadwelkar

    December 29, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    As a further safeguard, we often take a master and then play it out to a DVD recorder with BITC. That way we have an unalterable copy of what was delivered which we can run back and check.

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    Neil Sadwelkar
    neilsadwelkar.blogspot.com
    twitter: fcpguru
    FCP Editor, Edit systems consultant
    Mumbai India

  • David Roth weiss

    December 30, 2009 at 5:46 am

    [Eric Susch] “if someone calls and says your master is horked you have evidence to prove them wrong 😉

    Of course we know they only call to rave about how great everything was, but it’s still a good idea to watch your back.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • John Pale

    January 1, 2010 at 2:33 am

    I’ll be the contrarian and say that I rarely put the bars/tone/slate in the timeline.

    I like to have the sequence duration in the browser/bin be the duration of program content.

    To each his own.

  • Eric Susch

    January 1, 2010 at 11:06 am

    I’ve never actually had a master tape rejected (knock on wood) but I have gotten phone calls about “problems.” Sometimes the QC people flag the strangest things. I remember once on a film project I had a tail sync pop flagged as a “frame not rendered.”

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