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First Epic job!
Hello friends,
Yesterday I was contacted about a job for grading which just finished shooting with Epic 5K footage and Canon5D as well. It will be edited offline in FCP at there studios but they want to check workflow from the start with me in that I will be grading. The delivery is 1080p for broadcast and web however for the online color grading process the client will want to go back to the r3d RED material…they want to make sure of things so they asked me first.
Here is the plan please let me know if this makes sense – i have a couple questions.
Convert 5D with FCP canon plugin or RedGiant Grinder – converting to ProRes 1080p 23.98 HQ w/ timecode.
RED 5K – convert in RedCine-X to 1080p ProRes HQ for editing – never used Epic 5K material so i am concerned a bit about settings. I have downloaded the latest versions of fcp plugin and redcine-x to be able to use Epic material. The client wants to make 4444 1080 ProRes but I have suggested making it HQ to match the 5D material for editing – especially if they want to go back to the r3d in grading why even bother making 4444 versions no or can an fcp timeline have both HQ and 4444 1080 material on same timeline??
Also a couple questions:
1) If any cropping needed to happen to select a certain 1080 portion of the 5K material can this be done in RedCine or should I use something else like After Effects w/ latest red plugin to do this? My concern with this is if they insist on going back to the r3d material in grading wont I have to render out 4K versions for them to re-run through AE selecting the portion of the 5K shot they want to use for 1080?
2) If I can convince them not to go back to the r3d raw in grading can I just set RedCine-X to output full res 1080 ProResHQ or 4444 to use with Davinci? Looks like the client is insisting we grade the Epic stuff w/ the r3d raw but just thought to ask about this.
3) the client may be willing to rent a red rocket card for me to use on my MacPro – right now I have the GT-120 and 285 cards installed for color & davinci along with BMD extreme 3D so i assume the 285 will have to come out in order to use the rocket card for RedCine-X? any help or advice on this would be great.Ultimately, my big question is if they edit offline with ProResHQ 1920×1080 23.98 epic & 5D material and then want to grade in davinci with me using the r3d for the epic material what is the easiest way to do this in that the timeline will have a mix of both material. Is it going to be possible to send this mixed format or will there have to be an epic r3d project and a 5D project – i know latest version of davinci supports Epic but I am just wanting to be sure of things!?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
cheers
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Ask for one or two clips of the media right now . experiment with it and ask them to follow your results.
Its new stuff and would probably like a hand with it anyway . I would keep the Epic media nativ in a mixed project , it just feels good to have it ready.
But you might Want to use Storm for cutting and stuff.A slice of color…
DaVinci 7.1.2 OSX 10.6.7
Dual Xeon 2,4 RAM 24 GB
RAID0 8TB eSata 6TB
GTX 285 / GT 120
Extreme 3D+ WAVE -
hey sascha thank you for the response.
can you expand on what you mean by ‘experiment’ in terms of using redcine or storm for sizing?
“I would keep the Epic media nativ in a mixed project , it just feels good to have it ready.” can you explain?
Why use Storm for cutting and stuff? did you mean before bringing into fcp for the actual editing process w/ clients in a room?
thanks
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I meant after editing from proxies you can use the XML, go to Storm and trim you Red files.
Don’t do the scaling there, Resolve is great doing that .
Your Client will be impressed if you can zoom into the 5k images while grading.
But because of the very limiter conform flexibility you should use Storm to ready your Red clips before loading them all into the media pool.A slice of color…
DaVinci 7.1.2 OSX 10.6.7
Dual Xeon 2,4 RAM 24 GB
RAID0 8TB eSata 6TB
GTX 285 / GT 120
Extreme 3D+ WAVE
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