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  • Firewire blows 3 DV decks

    Posted by James Goodman on July 23, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    I know this is not a Premiere problem but I changed to on board firewire when Canopus quit Premiere and wanted to know if anyone else had experienced this.

    I have a Tyan S2895 and have used the on board firewire to my Sony DSR25 deck for just over a year with not a hitch

    This machine is only used for video work and the other night I left it running to defrag a G-Tech 1TB external drive. My Video deck was connected but switched off. I turned the machine off in the morning and returned to use it in the evening when I found no communication to the Sony Deck. I checked cable and even tried a different one then I tried with a JVC deck and nothing. I tried a 2nd DV deck connected to my everyday computer and all worked fine then I connected the 2nd JVC to my Tyan machine (all via the rear firewire) and nothing. I then connected my 2nd JVC back to my everyday m/c and nothing. I rechecked my everyday m/c with a camcorder firewire and all worked fine.

    This means that somehow the rear on board Firewire on the Tyan blows the firewire in any device connected to it.

    Is a PCI firewire card better protection ?

    Mike Cohen replied 18 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Mike Cohen

    July 23, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    It is a known issue that firewire can blow the ieee-1394 ilink port on any Sony device. It happened on our DV clamshell deck. Sony ilink is unpowered, but firewire is powered. Although most decks have a 4 wire firewire connector, but somehow this happens. Rumor has it the repair is not covered by Sony’s warranty.
    Can anyone else confirm this?

    Mike

  • Tim Kolb

    July 23, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    I’ve heard the same thing…

    I’ve also been told that having the device coupled via FW` during startup causes some sort of “surge” that can do damage…

    I haven’t experienced any problems myself, though I have seen where some wires get crossed in the hookup to Tyan MB’s and that fries connections…though it sounds as if this connection has been working fine for some time.

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  • Mike Velte

    July 23, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    Been there…
    I have had 4 DV camcorders that the firewire controllers were fried by a PC with a faulty PCI slot where the firewire card was plugged into. I only use one anymore and use S/Video out to a A/D converter…works fine but no timecode.
    I feel your pain.

  • Baz Leffler

    July 24, 2007 at 12:36 am

    James – I have the same mobo as you and had the onboard firewire port connected to a firewire hub and that connected to a FX1. But now the onboard firewire port no longer works, neither does the hub and more sadly the FX1’s firewire interface no longer communicates with anything. I got a quote of $2000 to get the camera fixed; so I went and purchased a HC7 for $1300 and use it as a deck but the FX1 still works as a camera. The hub was suppose to be the protective buffer.

    I now run a PCI firewire card in this computer and will never buy a Tyan mobo again.

    Baz

    What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!

  • James Goodman

    July 24, 2007 at 3:13 am

    Thanks everyone for their input and especially Baz who had a similar disaster – I have yet to get a quote on my deck repair. Luckily I did not plug my camera’s into this machine. This will be my first and last time with Tyan and will stick to ASUS and Intel in future as in the past. Now I too will use a PCI firewire card on this machine.

    James

  • Mike Cohen

    July 24, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    we also lost a Canopus and a ADS analog to DV converter box due to a firewire surge. Get a good name brand firewire PCI card (Belkin for example).

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