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  • Finding those brilliant ideas

    Posted by Todd Terry on May 12, 2014 at 4:42 am

    We’re a little stumped about how to improve things in our little shop, maybe some fellow COW members can help…

    At my company we do pretty much any kind of video or film production, but we specialize in broadcast television commercials and that’s the vast majority of our business. We call our little place a “creative agency,” because we are not actually an advertising agency… as we don’t do any media placement ourselves (although we have thought of dipping into that pool in a few occasions). Although often we have to do much the same work that an ad agency does…

    About half of our clients are ad agencies… some big, some small, and they typically bring us scripts to already-fleshed-out campaigns and our mandate is simply “do this.” Those are easy.

    But for the rest of our clients we work directly… and with the exception of media buys we do everything an ad agency would… concept campaigns, cook up ideas, help form their marketing messages, then go about bringing those ideas to the screen.

    These non-agency clients are pretty varied… there are really big ones like a huge hospital system, a region-wide Honda dealers’ association, a multi-billion dollar financial institution…. and there are really small ones like a single construction equipment dealer, some individual medical and law practices, mom-n-pop businesses, etc.

    For these non-agency ones, here’s our trouble… We have to be the “idea guys” for these as well as just do the mechanical/physical part of the production, and frankly we are just tapped out. We have to come up with what are probably easily 100+ ideas/concepts/campaigns every year, and there’s only three of us on staff. We stay pretty much jammed to the gills… me directing and DP’ing (with some writing and editing), my partner our GM producing, writing, handling all the client stuff and all financials, and our editor handling all the main editing duties, uploading, archiving, etc. We’re full. Our brains are full (or empty). Drained.

    So, my question is, if you were in this situation (and maybe you even are), how would you go about augmenting the difficult “concept” and “idea” part?

    I’m NOT looking for ways to stimulate brains or jog loose brilliant ideas here. We’ve done all that, ad nauseam (or is that advertising nauseam?), and we’re tapped out… AND there are simply no more hours in the day to sit and ruminate and reflect to come up with these brainstorms… and we’re not looking for brain-stimulators or creativity exercises.

    Rather… I’m looking for source suggestions for additional ideas… what would you do? Hire a creative type or two whose job on staff is simply to have a brilliant noggin full of slick and new ideas? Solicit ideas and concepts from outsiders on a case-by-case basis (and if so, how/where to find these people)? Find freelancers? Track down Don Draper? (he’s a real person, right?)

    We have a few real dream clients… the kind who are fun to work with, easy to please, and don’t whine at all about budgets and are happy to spend whatever it takes. A couple of them even fall into the “never heard a bad idea” category which should make them easy… but we’d still like to give them campaign concepts that we actually think are good.

    On a couple of occasions when hitting a stumbling block I have hit up fellow COW friends for ideas on individual campaigns (you know who you are), and that was helpful… but our needs are now greater than asking for the occasional favor.

    We’re stumped. Wisdom or thoughts much MUCH appreciated.

    T2

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    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

    Todd Terry replied 11 years, 11 months ago 10 Members · 19 Replies
  • 19 Replies
  • Mike Smith

    May 12, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    Maybe it’s time to think about how you might find or create a small pool (3? 4?) of freelance film writers / concept people to develop ideas for your pitches and projects – ideas to hand off to you at concept or polished script stage. Managing freelance writers through the pitching process will still take some of your time, particularly in early days – but if you can get two or three you know who produce good, fresh ideas running at the same time, it should increase your capacity. Though having written in a pool like that (long, long ago) I could add that after a while the writers might want to start some workshopping or other group activities for better development.

  • Jeff Breuer

    May 12, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    Always a rough spot Todd, I get it. It sounds to me like you are on the right path though. You know what you don’t like and what you do like. It sounds like you would prefer to just focus on being a production company and depending on the market you are in there are a lot of opportunities for that. If we start with that as the goal there are a couple things you could do. You could hire a part time media buyer who works on commission, there is good money in ad buys even if you are just picking a little bit off the top.

    Secondly the one big piece of business advice that I am constantly being reminded of is, when you are an owner you must dedicate your focus to working ON the business, not simply IN your business. It sounds like this is what your partner is trying to do but keeps getting caught up in writing and some pre/production work. If you need to, maybe hire a part time writer just to save him time to focus on building relationships with the local ad companies to drive more work in.

    Finally I know a lot of businesses that are going away from broadcast advertising. The market just isn’t there like it used to. Over the years we have been shifting more of our work to online videos (both for advertising and marketing). At some point you will need a good motion graphics designer though. I like to look at a lot of stuff Epipheo puts out or popular Kinetic Type ads and especially the Ford Truck ads, those are great use of motion design.

    I’m sure there are a lot of good ideas out there, this was just on my mind when I read your post. Best of luck to you Todd!

  • Jason Jenkins

    May 12, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Figure out how to get Mark Suszko working for you. That guy is loaded with great ideas.

    Jason Jenkins
    Flowmotion Media
    Video production… with style!

    Check out my Mormon.org profile.

  • Todd Terry

    May 12, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    Oh I’ve gone to the Suszko well a number of times before… he’s a good source for sure, but it’s hard to continually ask for long-distance favors.

    I can’t put him on the payroll because I can’t compete with fatcat government dollars, nor give him a schedule with enough flexible free time to write 3,483,321-word posts on the COW every day (kidding, Mark… you’re a treasure).

    As to the others who responded, thanks for the thoughts.

    Yes, we realize business is changing… and we do produce a fair number of web videos, pieces for social media, industrials, things like that. But our bread and butter is still broadcast commercials, and we manage to stay more or less fully booked doing those, fortunately in our market there is plenty of need for that.

    As I’ve said we’ve thought about media buying, but it’s not really our thing. Half our clients are already ad agencies who obviously do that themselves. And our biggest non-agency clients do their own buying directly, and they are large enough that they already get agency rates from media outlets, so there’s no money to be made there. That only leaves the small fish, probably not enough to bother with. We are occasionally asked if we can place media and we say “Sure!,” but we really just funnel that job to another one-man agency we work with often, we don’t even ask for a cut.

    We’re not really looking to drive more work in (although we wouldn’t turn it down), but to better take care of the clients we have… most have been with us for years and years and have come to expect great ideas… and sadly the idea sponge has dried up.

    It’s almost funny that clients think things the shooting, directing, editing, casting, producing and all the various accoutrements that come with production is the hard part. That part is child’s play, I can do it in my sleep. They don’t give a second thought to generating the IDEAS though, and that’s the really tough part.

    T2

    __________________________________
    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Mark Suszko

    May 12, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    (*cough*)

    I already do freelance writing on the weekends.

    (some samples)

    https://www.innovationnow.us/listen.aspx

    I need the extra mental stimulation. And money. Money is very stimulating.

    (“fatcat government dollars“. That’s funny. Really. Funny) Seriously, reach me privately and maybe I can help. You’ll only pay for pitches you use.

  • Todd Terry

    May 12, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    Mark, you know I already have you on speed dial.

    T2

    __________________________________
    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Mark Suszko

    May 12, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Before the local pizza delivery place, or after?

  • Todd Terry

    May 12, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    I don’t know, the numbers aren’t labeled… to keep things interesting.

    T2

    __________________________________
    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Steve Kownacki

    May 12, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    Todd, I’m always hesitant to employ a “creative” or “writer” due to each of our clients having different requirements – a car spot writer may not be good for medical or electronics. Plus, in this ever-wavering volume of work, I try to watch the commitment to permanent overhead.

    I think many of your best assets you already work with every day. As the rainmaker, take your crews out for dinner and tap them for ideas. If you get work, they get work. They may not be the one to completely flesh it out, but they can give lots of creative advice so you are not the one scratching your head all the time. There’s lots of buy-in when someone else ideas are being produced!

    I also have some partnerships/associations with smaller agencies that I Produce for. We get together as needed to generate creative ideas for one another. Sometimes it’s worth paying them to actually write my treatments, storyboards & proposals.

    Steve

  • Todd Terry

    May 12, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    Appreciated, Steve… but see… that’s just it…

    [Steve Kownacki] “I think many of your best assets you already work with every day.”

    …agreed, and we’re all tapped out. The Genius Switch has finally found its off position.

    [Steve Kownacki] ” take your crews out for dinner and tap them for ideas.”

    Good idea, if there were any crews. The creative team is me and my biz partner. That’s it. Aside from bringing my editor with us to crew on location, the three of us are it. There is no other “crew.” We run very lean.

    I’d gladly pay for ideas… but finding a genius pool of creative types is darn hard.

    T2

    __________________________________
    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

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