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  • Finally, setup a RAID 0, now what?

    Posted by Gerry Cast on July 19, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    I have a Win 7 Pro machine that I finally added a RAID 0 to, but am not sure the best way to assign the drives to do what. I’ve done a few Export tests from Premier Pro CC 2014 and don’t see any speed differences. Any advice would be helpful.

    I’m running Premier Pro CC 2014 and a few other Adobe video related apps, as well as Cakewalks Sonar Music Editing software on this system and nothing else.

    My system has 16 Gigs of memory and these drives. Having these many drives allow me to backup during my projects and then pull them out for offsite storage, as well as have dedicated drives for the music/sequencing editing.

    C: Boot Drive – 250 Gig SSD
    D: Optical
    E: Optical
    F: 1 Terabyte 7200 rpm
    G: 1 Terabyte 7200 rpm
    H: 1 Terabyte 7200 rpm
    J: 1 Terabyte 7200 rpm
    K: 1 Terabyte 7200 rpm

    My new Sans Digital 5 Bay Enclosure coupled with the High Point Rocket Raid 642L card is where I’ve created the RAID 0 arrays (I created two for testing, see below).

    R: RAID 0 (two SATA 7200 rpm 2 Terabyte drives)
    T: RAID 0 (two 120 Gig SSD drives)
    U: One 250 Gig SSD drive

    I setup two different RAID 0’s so that I could test them to see if there’s a difference (haven’t done this yet). Don’t know if the huge 4 Terabyte RAID 0 is better than using the small 240 Gig SSD RAID 0. I’m guessing that would depend on the size of the project?

    What would be the best, faster to edit video and to export in Premier Pro CC 2014 with the above setup? And to edit video in general. Will I see improvements in rendering speed? In Preview Playback?

    I tried exporting a 2 Gig .mts file, encoded as Win Media HD 29.xx using Media Encoder a variety of different ways (going to the SSD and then the SATA drive) and other ways, and I don’t see any speed changes as they all encode the same file in about 31 minutes.

    I suspect the bottleneck is having the source and export drives in the same enclosure. As I think about it, the esata connection to the card in the computer can only handle a certain read/write speed, regardless of the speed of the disks in the array, right?

    As you can see, I’m a bit lost here.

    Thanks.

    Gerry Cast replied 11 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Alex Udell

    July 20, 2014 at 12:45 am

    Hi Gerry…

    I think the RAIDS will give you great performance to read multiple streams during editorial….

    I’m not sure you will see a marked export benefit.

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Gerry Cast

    July 20, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    Thanks, Alex.

    Yes, exports seem to be the same speed when targeting the SSD or the SATA platter drive in my eSata enclosure. I thought I had read here somewhere that I’d see a speed increase.

    Also, I’ve set up my High Point Rocket Raid 642L paired with my 5 drive Sans Digital enclosure (eSata cable connnection to my computer) like Harm M. had suggested below for Premier Pro CC 2014:

    Make sure Pagefile is NOT on C: SSD

    4 Terabyte RAID 0 – Media and Projects

    240 Gig RAID 0 – Pagefile, Media Cache

    Bottom Bay SSD 250 – Previews, Exports

    Of course, from my initial post, you’ll see that I have plenty of backup drives in the computer and will configure them as such to protect the above setup.

    I’m hoping that with the tweaking of the CPU and Window OS software (Viper recommendations), that this newly built system will finally give me the smooth, reasonable speed I need to edit.

    Finally, I read here that someone said a Rocket Raid 640L is to setup a “Software RAID” and it’s not really a true “Hardware RAID”. That’s confusing to me because I thought a software RAID was what you setup in Windows 7 via the “Manage Disks” feature and that’s why I bought this. I figure a card = hardware.

    I’ve Googled this and can’t get a clear explaination. Would you know?

    Thanks again.
    Jerry

  • Alex Udell

    July 20, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    If you have connected the chassis, and it’s connected via a dedicated card (Host Bus Adapter) ….and you are setting up the RAID configuration thru that cards software….then it’s a hardware RAID.

    That means that card is responsible for the overhead of managing the read/write to the storage and your CPU’s won’t be burdened with that.

    This leaves them free to do other things…like focus more on PPro…

    and decompressing compressed file streams (like H264 and AVCHD, etc)

    so it should help.

    But typically it also means that the data is written to the drive in a way that the HBA understands….so if the card is not available (fails) the data is also unavailable….so having a mirror somewhere is helpful in case you get stuck….

    hope that helps…

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Gerry Cast

    July 20, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Thanks again, Alex. Yes, I do have a backup program that I use every couple of minutes during an edit.

    Finally, do you see the below setup as being efficient for use with Premier Pro CC 2014? I’ve gotten so much different advice.

    Make sure Pagefile is NOT on C: SSD

    4 Terabyte RAID 0 – Media and Projects

    240 Gig RAID 0 – Pagefile, Media Cache

    Bottom Bay SSD 250 – Previews, Exports

    I appreciate your help.

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