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  • final level output 0-255 or 16-235

    Posted by Shawn Bossick on June 19, 2011 at 3:18 am

    Hello Vegas users, I’m embarrassed to ask this question, on the account of how long I’ve been using Vegas. a decade.

    When editing is done, I do my color correction & final output levels

    I do the correction within my Vegas preview window, not on an external monitor, by using the scopes within Vegas I get my blacks to just hit zero, & my whites to hit 255.
    once this is done throughout my project, I then use the secondary color corrector plug-in on my video bus & select the preset ( CHANGE COMPUTER RGB TO STUDIO RGB ) because I was taught that TV & windows media players uses the 16-235 output range, & not the 0-255 range WHY WOULD VEGAS DO THIS THEN ? A MYSTERY TO ME
    once I render it in Vegas I then take my MPEG2 into DVD ARCHITECT
    so I may view it on my TV. & because I have inserted the secondary color corrector plugin on my video bus, now DVD ARCHITECT on It’s preview window looks more GAMMA like with less CONTRAST,
    the TV looks like there is more GAMMA also then in my Vegas preview window with less contrast,
    IS there something I’m missing here, shouldn’t it look just as good within DVD ARCHITECT as Vegas ? It looks so good in Vegas.
    I did just last week get a whole new computer to run HD better, I was hoping I would not have to re cal berate my monitor, is that what is happening, I never really liked to re cal berate my monitor, it felt like, I don’t think this helped, am I doing this wrong ?
    PART 2 is TV & all the internet using 16-235
    I don’t follow why & what Vegas needs me to do here
    what am I missing ?

    THANK YOU ALL WHO MAY KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN THIS

    Phil Loarie replied 14 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • Mike Kujbida

    June 19, 2011 at 4:09 am

    Here is an excellent tutorial that will (hopefully) help and not further confuse you.
    Sony Vegas to Youtube Tutorial – A Better Method

  • Shawn Bossick

    June 19, 2011 at 7:06 am

    Thank you ! I watched this twice, & I will try this,
    so your saying that this will keep my render looking the same on you tube as in the Vegas preview window, right.
    this tutorial did not talk about exporting to DVD ? or TV ? delivering a high quality file, like AVI to a television network.

    so I’m just wondering where this difference of gamma & contrast really come from, RENDERING or CALIBRATION of monitor ?
    I have a $300.00 LG LCD monitor, not good enough ?
    is there any kind of way or trick that what you see in the Vegas preview window is what you get

    OR should you not color correct or do your final level control in the Vegas preview window ?

    IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION ?
    THANKS to ALL

  • Mike Kujbida

    June 19, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Shawn, unless you spend more money, no LCD monitor will ever be as good as a properly calibrated CRT.
    Having said that, use Calibrize (it’s free) to set up your monitor.

    If you want to spend some money ($200 at B&H), look into getting a Spyder 3 Elite to do it right.
    Search this forum for other users as it’s a tool that comes highly recommended.

  • Shawn Bossick

    June 19, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Mike thank you for the Spyder 3 Elite to do it right suggestion.
    John Rofrano recommended it in another post I read about.
    OK here goes another $200.00 L.O.L.

  • Phil Loarie

    June 22, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Hello Shawn,
    Another thing you might do depending on what type of HDTV you have.

    Before I edit, I usually review my ‘dailies’ direct to my Sony HDTV via a HDMI from my Sony Camcorder–this really lets me see the raw footage closely.

    While in post production I make a mpeg 2 render and put it on a USB flash drive. My Sony HDTV has a USB input and can read mpeg2, jpg and mp3 (audio). I can then look at it on this big screen (46″) before making my release.

    All of the above will not be better than a calibrated display but adding the larger screen to view with calibration should make a big difference.

    Hope this helps,
    -Phil

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