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Final Cut Pro X versus Premiere Pro CS6 by Oliver Peters
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[David Lawrence] “What Steve Jobs said about music is doubly true for mission critical applications my business depends on. I want to own them.”
Me five.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
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[David Lawrence] “[Chris Harlan] “Me three.”
Me four. Here’s why I’ll never rent software:
https://www.larryjordan.biz/app_bin/wordpress/archives/2015
Larry fully admits to his mistakes but even so, he should not have been exposed to this kind of risk.”
Totally agree, on top of the potential activation issues, I don’t want to take the hit of another monthly expense when and if I’m not working. I don’t like the idea of my software costing me money when it isn’t being used.
Shawn
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[Craig Seeman] “Granted we have to see where Apple goes with their feature upgrades but, to date, no developer using the Mac App Store can charge for upgrades through that delivery medium so unless we hear otherwise, status quo free feature upgrades (catch up or not) continues.”
Note that you can do in-app purchases, though. So while with present App Store infrastructure Apple can’t just say “$100 for the 10.1 update”, they could hypothetically say “$100 for the new ‘pro workflow’ features we’ve added”.
But my guess is that they won’t do this. The Pro Apps have always been primarily about selling hardware.
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[Shawn Miller] ” I don’t like the idea of my software costing me money when it isn’t being used.”
Shawn,
While I’m not exactly an advocate of the rental model, one of it’s aspects is you could actually only pay for it while you use it. (Note, the rates are higher, but it should be considered.)
Franz.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Shawn,
While I’m not exactly an advocate of the rental model, one of it’s aspects is you could actually only pay for it while you use it. (Note, the rates are higher, but it should be considered.)
Franz.”
That is a good point, Franz. But if I’m not working, and I still want/need to do unpaid work (updating my demo reel, doing volunteer work, etc), then CC continues to be a cost. With the perpetual license, I can at least work with an ‘outdated’ version of the software until my next paying gig.
IMO, the subscription model seems like it could be a huge benefit to medium and large post houses. I actually like the idea of being able to scale seats up or down according to workload… I’m just not sure it makes as much sense for individual artists… well, not for me at least. 🙂
Shawn
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I do think there’s a real psychological barrier although I can Adobe’s approach on cost.
https://creative.adobe.com/plansYou’re either paying $600/year ($50/mo) for everything or $75/mo to cancel anytime.
Given the price ($1900 for Production Premium) to buy the Suite you’d have to be the kind of person that goes more than 3 years without paying for an upgrade to make the purchase worthwhile.
The psychological barrier might be that you’re really making a lifetime commitment as once you cancel you lose access to the apps to open your project files. This means at the point you want to cancel you need to buy the current Suite so you can keep opening your files.
Cancel anytime only makes sense if you think there’s a real possibility you might stop using for more than 4 months (and not have access to your project files)
If you’re just interested in an individual app at $20/mo it would be closer to 4 years without upgrading to make a purchase more worthwhile. The one exception seems to be if you want Photoshop Extended which doesn’t seem to be available in the individual app plan. I suspect that’s deliberate as there are probably many who use other NLEs who might get that plant otherwise. If you want Extended you have to get the full suite at $50/mo.
Basically one can see that Adobe did this to address all those people who purchase and then skip several upgrades.
For many these plans are psychologically worse than two year smartphone carrier contracts.
With Adobe you’re really on a plan for life if you want to maintain access to your project files or your last act is buying the apps to keep access (sorta like a carrier early termination fee?) -
[Bret Williams] “Doesn’t work that way. You can have the whole suite installed on 20 computers for that matter. But only 2 systems will actively function at once. In your scenario, two of those 4 will always be inactive.”
OK so maybe I misunderstand. I realise you can only have one active computer at a time. So. . .
. . .Can I do this? I edit at work with PPro on my MacPro. I go home and do some extra work on Photoshop on my iMac. Later on, I finish off some Illustrator work in bed on my laptop.
Is that a workable scenario?
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And yet Adobe seems to have hit business paydirt with this model
Creative Suite subscriptions pay off as Adobe raises profit forecast
https://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/20/creative-suite-subscriptions-pay-off-as-adobe-raises-profit-forecast
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