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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 12, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    er, this is the spear’s tip PR push for Apple and FCPX? this guy?

    Sure at least he’s trying I suppose.

    Still – I stand by this – that business man is feeling quite emotional about his business:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Craig Seeman

    April 12, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    Not much of a PR push beyond “stay the course” and everything is gonna be alright.

    The odd thing is his other blog post was really an attack on Adobe’s marketing.
    Apple really has to get its own marketing house in order. If they’re ridding on “FCPX will sell itself” that’s not working all that well. Not that FCPX isn’t selling but it’s not being used all that much in the bigger facilities (with the deeper pockets).

    I wish Apple showed as much passionate marketing for FCPX as he showed in his berating Adobe.

    When I see this
    • FCP X is being used by some major players, and by businesses in all categories, at all levels.
    and
    • Apple is working with major players in the film and broadcast industries developing FCP X into a power house.

    Apple really has to name names beyond their “In Action” page.

    and
    • Anyone who doubts the abilities of FCP X, contact me, we’ll get the facts straight.
    But a facility manager about to make a big financial decision really should be able to contact Apple and discuss viable workflows. That would be Public Relations needed by a professional.

  • Herb Sevush

    April 12, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    “I’ll start by reassuring everyone that Apple is VERY dedicated to FCP X and its future. They are listening and being driven by users. So filling out that feedback form (in the Final Cut Pro menu inside the app) is very important!”

    And here I thought it was common knowledge that Apple never listens to users but skates to where the puck will be, marches to the beat of thier own drum , takes the road less traveled by … oh well.

    “Apple is working with major players in the film and broadcast industries developing FCP X into a power house.”

    When I see both “major players” and “power house” in the same sentence that means it must be so.

    “The goal is to develop a first class NLE that allows creatives to create, not get bogged down with technical issues, as it should be. Since there is no logical need to go into technical engineering details, you shouldn’t be forced to.”

    I’m an editor and my job is often technical, as it should be. I guess I’m not a “creative.”

    “More copies of FCP X have been sold in overwhelming numbers than FCP 7 in the same time period. Logically, this means that FCP X is in fact outselling Premier Pro or Media Composer.”

    Well now we have “logical” and “logically” in back to back paragraphs. However I would like to see the evidence this claim is based on — any evidence at all relating to sales figures of any of the products mentioned. I guess asking for facts is not very logical.

    “FCP X is being used by some major players, and by businesses in all categories, at all levels.”

    Now we’re back to “major players.” Does this mean Derek Jeter uses X?

    “Anyone who doubts the abilities of FCP X, contact me, we’ll get the facts straight.”

    You’d have to have a fact before you can get it straight.

    “Closed Captioning? I can use Mac Caption with FCP X’s ProRes or other format output for super accurate, super fast CC work to digital files in pretty much any QuickTime format. All you need to supply MC is the QT file from FCP X and an SCC formatted text file. It only takes minutes to assemble, tweak, and output. Be aware that the FCC laws state any educational institution publishing to the web must be CC’ed, and if you broadcast something with CC originally, any posting to the web has to carry the same CC’ing. So this is not only “cool”, but it is the law!”

    In other words X does not do closed captioning.

    “The commercial third party plugin world for FCP X is growing faster than for any other NLE on the market today. Why would that be, do you wonder?”

    Could it be because it’s the only new NLE on the market and all the others already have a mature market of plug-ins. Nah, must be something else.

    “FCP X is powerful, it is here to stay, and it will be the dominant player 7 was. That is not a rumor, that is not the mindless ranting of a fanboy, that is not wishful thinking, that is the cold, hard fact, dear readers.”

    As a famous rabbit once said “what an ultra-maroon.”

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Sandeep Sajeev

    April 12, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    But a facility manager about to make a big financial decision really should be able to contact Apple and discuss viable workflows. That would be Public Relations needed by a professional.

    Totally agree. This silent approach was barely tolerable when there were actual resellers setting up systems, but now those guys have all shifted focus onto other tools as well and it’s annoying as hell.

    But this is a general problem through out the NLE corps. For instance after watching the Avid NAB demo Aindreas posted in the other thread, I went across to the Avid site for info on Interplay. All that’s available is the most generic copy. If you want to know how to set it up, how much it costs, what is required etc you have to ‘Contact’ Avid.

    Why? Why not have that information on the site? What is the point in showcasing a lame video with some guy from Fuse, a video that again is boiler plate and totally lacking in any specifics instead?

    I was enthusiastic about Media Composer and Interplay when I got on the Avid site. But then after watching that Fuse video and the ridiculously terrible Media Composer promo video, I was just irritated.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 12, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “The odd thing is his other blog post was really an attack on Adobe’s marketing.”

    that – i thought was crazy – adobe are effectively state of the art at this point.

    Gruber had a really good post on format native advertising:
    https://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/04/09/the-disruptive-potential-of-native-advertising/

    the point is that while adobe may have a massive traditional ad spend, marketing, for want of a better word, is communication right?
    and there is no one who communicates and responds like adobe do. there just isn’t. not at their scale.

    I asked a question – after the CS7 feature list came out – wondering on the phrasing of the project architecture and getting into other projects –
    the shagging well Senior Engineering Manager for Adobe Premiere Pro responded for god’s sake.

    And what’s better the answer was completely killer. We went nuts for it. Started throwing around futurama clips.
    It’s kind of a perfect – so called – marketing storm, the levels of communication are surreal, and the product is getting utterly savage.

    And we’re just the small beans like? – they are apparently knee deep on anywhere with scale companies all over – Hogarth in London I could personally reference.

    there are also a bunch of guys at apple woking like madmen to get FCPX where they want it to be. it is a weakness on Apple’s part that they do not see their participation in social user back and forth as a fundamental component to the success of the product.

    They need only look at adobe for god’s sake.
    As much as apple would like it to be – It can’t all be mystique and fancy ad copy. It feels a smidge last century?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Bill Davis

    April 12, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Mel Blanc never had to put “ultra” in front of anything… his immaculate delivery said everything that needed to be said and never had to rely on superlatives.

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  • David Cherniack

    April 12, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “As a famous rabbit once said “what an ultra-maroon.””

    I was thinking of another word that begins with a C and ends with a T and it isn’t ‘carrot’ but I’ve heard that ad hominems are never used on this forum. Still I appreciated the allusion to maroons and laughed out loud.

    David
    https://AllinOneFilms.com

  • Herb Sevush

    April 12, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Mel Blanc never had to put “ultra” in front of anything”

    Bully for Bugs. 1952 Warner Brothers Looney Tunes theatrical cartoon. Directed by Chuck Jones and written by Michael Maltese.

    “Bugs taunts Toro once again by calling him, among other things, an “imbecile” (which Bugs pronounces “im-BESS-il”) and an “ultra maroon”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bully_for_Bugs

    You can attack my credibility and call me all the names you like, but don’t ever question my devotion to Looney Toons. Chuck Jones is one of my gods, and Mel Blanc is his oracle.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 12, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    well thats true. Blanc FTW.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Craig Seeman

    April 12, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “it is a weakness on Apple’s part that they do not see their participation in social user back and forth as a fundamental component to the success of the product.”

    Last year, Apple participated in the Blackmagic Road Show. In addition to the stage show, they had a table so people could actually walk up and ask real questions. I don’t know about events others might have attended but it was the last time I heard that Apple had someone publicly available to talk about FCPX.

    I did hear there were Apple folk walking around talking to vendors and some attendees (I guess) but even that’s a bit different than just sitting out in the open with an Apple ID being approachable. I thought that was going to be a new pattern for Apple. Apparently it wasn’t.

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