Final Cut Pro Demons.

[Walter Biscardi]

I have never had or heard of an issue like you’re describing in four years of running the program. Perhaps you can describe your workflow from capture to editing.

the only thing I could think of is to ensure that you’re NOT capture audio and video as separate files. That can cause a whole host of issues.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Peter Jordan]

Walter, Thanks for taking a look…

My workflow is the following:

1. Capture entire 60min DV tapes in OfflineRT
2. Edit scenes in separate OfflineRT sequences
3. Nest scene sequences inside a master sequence
4. Using Media Manager, recapture, deleting unused media
5. Delete any clip files from Browser, leaving only sequences
6. Fine cut scenes (this is generally where the demons come)
7. Print to video

I often have dozens of scene sequences in the browser. After my initial pass through the footage, I delete the clip references in the Browser because I can more easily locate footage in the scene sequences. Some people have suggested this may be the problem, but only because it’s unusual.

This is the third project that has misbehaved in the same ghostly way — first two times on FCP3/TiBookG4 and this time on FCP4.5/DualG4. Only common hardware elements are my firewire drives.

But I wonder if some plug-ins might be causing havoc with the builtin FCP transitions? (Recently added Eureka and TooMuchTooSoon to the new system not long before things went funny).

What do you think?

Many thanks,
Peter

[Walter Biscardi]

Well I have to say I’ve never heard of anyone with a workflow that entails deleting the raw clips from a Browser before creating a final master.

Even when I work on a very long project and have multiple Sequences for each segment, I don’t assemble them as a series of Nests. I Copy all the material from the Segment and paste it into the Main timeline. This way I can still work with the raw clips for the fine edit at the end.

I certainly would never recommend anyone get rid of the raw clips that were used in the Browser unless they are totally unneeded material. If those clips are the same ones referenced in your timelines that would certainly be something to look at as the issue.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.com

Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

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[Newcitypro]

just remove the transition then move the clip then add transition back at new edit point
marcel

[Peter Jordan]

Thanks Marcel, Deleting transitions, moving, and then re-adding them is what I’ve done in the past. But it’s not realistic for complex projects. And this problem has begun relatively early in the editing process this time, so there’s still a lot left to do.

Any idea what could be causing the problem?

Many thanks,
Peter

[Jerry Hofmann]

I think I’d simply organize the footage and sequences better in the first place. Put all your master clips in a single folder with folders inside them that sort them out. how tough is that? Put sequences in their folder, put graphics together etc… have fewer folders on the top, and searching is a lot faster… I really think deleting original clips from the browser isn’t gaining you anything at all.

Jerry

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[Newcitypro]

well, the transition is actually attached to both the end of the first clip and the beginning of the next clip…so FCP thinks you want to leave the transition attached to the remaining clip, so it breaks the clip you are moving at the beginning of the transition. I know of no other choice other than to delete the transition prior to moving the clip…you could place shots on different tracks and add key frames for opacity to each clip if you just want dissolves…that way the effect is actually part of the clip that you are moving…also some plug-in effects, like sapphire effects work the same way…you apply them to the entire clip and with key frames you adjust the transitional properties…depends on what transition you need. however, that leads to some rendering…:->
marcel

[John Kaley]

Try taking your media offline (leave on disk) and then reconnect it to the master clips.

[Deditster]

i had the same problem not to long ago. I think it is a corrupt sequence. What I did was copy everything to a new sequence and all was good.

[Nick B]

You always need to delete the transition before moving a clip and it only takes a second.