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  • Final Cut Pro and Caption

    Posted by Daniel Bernardoni on April 27, 2010 at 3:08 am

    I am using .scc file to caption an hour show, but the file keep going out of sync more and more as the show goes on. It seems to be an issue regarding the drop frame vs non drop frame time code. My show is drop frame. The caption company that provide the .scc file is using CPC to create the file. They have been talking to CPC and they said that the combination of software of Final Cut 7.0 and blakcmagic is not able to use .scc file that will match with my drop frame show.
    I open the .scc file that went out of sync and all the time code numbers have no semi-colon which would indicate non drop frame time code, which would create the out of sync problem. However they also sent me a file where all the time code have a semi colon to indicate drop frame, but final cut pro while recognizing the file is unable to insert the data from caption file during the print to tape. I click on the folder where the file is, select the file and click choose but it won’t link.
    Anybody with any suggestions?

    Daniel Bernardoni replied 16 years ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 27, 2010 at 3:56 am

    “They have been talking to CPC and they said that the combination of software of Final Cut 7.0 and blakcmagic is not able to use .scc file that will match with my drop frame show. ”

    Sounds like you have your answer.

  • Jason Livingston

    April 27, 2010 at 4:41 am

    [Daniel Bernardoni] “They have been talking to CPC and they said that the combination of software of Final Cut 7.0 and blakcmagic is not able to use .scc file that will match with my drop frame show.”

    As far as I know, we haven’t experienced any problems using .scc files on Blackmagic cards in FCP7. So I’m not sure if your captioner is accurately relaying information they got from CPC.

    When you generated the proxy movie for the caption company to use as a reference, did you change the frame rate or make any other edits? The proxy needs to EXACTLY match the entirety of the finished FCP sequence. The kind of drift problem you’re experiencing can occur if you generated a 23.976fps or 30.0fps proxy movie for a 29.97 drop frame sequence, so the captioner’s reference would be off.

    I can think of some other problems that could occur but it is definitely fixable.

    Hope this helps,

    Jason Livingston
    CPC Closed Captioning

  • Robb Harriss

    April 27, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    did you reinstall the latest BlackMagic driver? I know you want to do that with the Kona drivers anytime you make a change/update to the system.

    How about for now going in and adjusting the timecode triggers in the caption file. It’s really supposed to be picking up the TC numbers. They’re absolute, not relative to the very beginning of the project.

    Non-linear: all the time and nothing but.

  • Daniel Bernardoni

    April 27, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Once my project is completed I export a quicktime (reference, not self contain), and once the export is done I drag the file into toast and burn a dvd. So there should not be any issues with it. I understand the caption company upload the footage into their system either using Dazzle or Ripit, and I am not sure if that is were the problem lies. I will try to output the project the same way I have done it the pass (won’t change anything) and then a dv file and will send to caption to see if the timing is different.
    Anybody else has any other suggestions?
    How do you handle the caption? .scc or blackmovie?
    Thanks

    dbbc

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