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  • Final cut drop frame time code?

    Posted by Bryant Joseph on April 20, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    Using Final Cut 5.

    I shot 1080i HD footage on DV tape, when it comes time to capture, do I have to turn drop-frame time code off, cause I guess it’s not NTSC at 1080i? Any thoughts?

    Also, I have some 1080i footage and some 720p footage for the same film, I’m pretty sure Final cut 5 can’t mix frame rates in one timeline, but couldn’t I edit the 1080i separately and then drop it in the 720p time line as a quicktime movie?

    Bryant Joseph replied 18 years ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Bouncing Account needs new email address

    April 21, 2008 at 1:43 am

    Timecode type (DF/NDF) is irrelevant.

  • Bryant Joseph

    April 21, 2008 at 3:13 am

    But drop frame is made to go with NTSC, because its not a perfect 30. So if you have a frame rate that is even and perfect, but your time code is dropping number every so often, then wouldn’t that affect your editing, timing, etc.?

  • Bryant Joseph

    April 22, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Really it’s 60i.

    And because its HDV it can’t be NTSC, so I’m almost certain it is not 29.97.

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 22, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    [Sam Waldorf] “Really it’s 60i.

    And because its HDV it can’t be NTSC, so I’m almost certain it is not 29.97.”

    That’s completely wrong. 1080/60i IS NTSC and it is 29.97 as the real running time. Look at the Properties of any clip and look at the Frame Rate. It will be 29.97.

    60i is just 60 interlaced fields per second. A fancy way of saying 30 Frames per second, or in NTSC Drop Frame terms, 29.97. AJA makes this very clear with their presets of 1080i/29.97 and 1080i/25. They don’t show 1080i/60 or 1080i/50 because who deals with fields? We all deal with frames so the true formats are 1080i/29.97 and 1080i/25.

    We’ve been cutting 720 and 1080 HD going on four years now and have dealt with every imaginable combination of drop frame and frame rate. 1080i/60 is NTSC and it is 29.97 DF.

    Some cameras can shoot 1080p at a true 60 frames per second giving you nice slo mo, but this is different than 1080/60i. Many people confuse the two.

    By the way, 1080i/25 (1080i/50) is PAL.

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  • Bryant Joseph

    April 22, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    thanks for the help,

    one other thing though, what about on a Panasonic HVX-200?

    Using tapeless P2 media, doesn’t this mean you aren’t in NTSC and therefore not 29.97 fps?

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