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Final Cut and HDW1800 Timecode Issues
I am trying to output from a Final Cut Pro (ver 6) to my HDW1800 Deck. I have never had a in issue with Timecode before. It sees my video, and sees remote control, but when I try to “black the tape” from Final Cut it is not taking my designated timecode. For some reason it is taking what is on the tape and regenerating it. I went into the deck config, and all the Timecode settings are correct. Is there something in Final Cut I may be missing?
To get passed this issue, I did set TC on the deck, blacked what I needed, and then Final Cut had no issues picking up the Timecode and laying down my sequence.
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[Justin Karpowich] “hen I try to “black the tape” from Final Cut”
why are you doing it that way?
you should set the timecode to what you want on the deck,
enable black, pop out the audio knobs and black it that way. -
FCP is not generating timecode. Your deck is.
I set the HDW1800 t/c to internal – preset – run, feed bars from FCP and crash record the first ten seconds, having set the code generator to start at the correct timecode. Then I do an assemble edit to tape and pick up at 10 seconds for bars & tone, with the deck picking up and generating code.
No need to pre black the whole tape. You just need a pre roll at the head.
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[Michael Gissing] “feed bars from FCP and crash record the first ten seconds,”
Michael, just curious but why feed bars at all from fcp to black the first 10 seconds?
on my digibeta I just hold down the sdi select until all 3 lights come on (deck internal black)
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Broadcast deliverables in Australia start with 1 minute of bars so I feed bars from FCP to code the first ten seconds as the rest of the program picks up those bars at 10 seconds to the program end.
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[Chris Borjis] “[Michael Gissing] “feed bars from FCP and crash record the first ten seconds,”
Michael, just curious but why feed bars at all from fcp to black the first 10 seconds?”
…. AND the HDW1800 deck has a built in bars and tone generator….
baz
What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!
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“…. AND the HDW1800 deck has a built in bars and tone generator….
”Sure, but I prefer to do the assemble at 10 seconds than at 1 minute. If I am playing out to tape, I have FCP patched and ready so it makes more sense to use the bars & tone in FCP.
I keep an HD & SD project handy which is just bars, tone, board and countdown. Much easier than dicking around with Sony menus.
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sure I understand that.
here in the U.S. it’s 30 seconds of bars and tone,
but I don’t lay timecode and bars from fcp and then
assemble from that because it’s possible to have a glitch
occur if you lay bars/tone over bars/tone. (unless you overwrite them completely then a non-issue)I just set the timecode on the deck, turn the black switch
on or make sure fcp is parked on black and just crash
record up to 59:18:00 (being the tc insert point) then assemble from there.To each his own….this is just the way it’s done here at my post house.
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[Michael Gissing] “Sure, but I prefer to do the assemble at 10 seconds than at 1 minute. If I am playing out to tape, I have FCP patched and ready so it makes more sense to use the bars & tone in FCP.”
Yes and there is also the fact that Sony do not provide ‘stereo tone’ with their built in generator.
[Michael Gissing] “I keep an HD & SD project handy which is just bars, tone, board and countdown”
I do the same thing and the project is called “lineup” It is set with all the other generics including ID boards and leaders AND the bars and tone are 4 channel audio ready to go. The main sequence is just the bars and tone and I will put it in loop mode and do the initial recording manually on the deck while FCP plays over and over again.
The BIG problem with ‘stereo tone’ is that some parts of the world require left track broken and others (like here in Australia) it is right channel broken… so I just do 4 channels unbroken for Discovery and Nat Geo and never had a reject…
Baz
What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!
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