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  • Final Cut and 16-bit

    Posted by Inder Nirwan on September 8, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Hi,

    I have a number of sequences that were brought in as uncompressed TIFF 16-bit from Shake and then edited in Final Cut. Unfortunately, when I attempt to export these sequences from FCP I see banding in every shot, something my client will not be happy with. I’m under the impression that Final Cut does not support anything beyond 10-bit, which would explain why I’m seeing banding when I export my edit even when they’re set to compression: none.

    I’m wondering if there’s anything I can do to retain the quality of my sequences aside from having to re-cut the whole thing in After Effects.

    Gary Adcock replied 17 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    September 8, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Firstly you haven’t told us the codec you are editing with and also what codec you are using when you export from FCP.

  • Inder Nirwan

    September 8, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    I cut the thing in a Prorez timeline and I’ve attempted to export it in various 10 bit codecs including Uncompressed 4:2:2 10bit and Blackmagic 10bit.

  • Michael Gissing

    September 9, 2008 at 12:07 am

    I will guess you are working in SD. The Apple 10 bit Uncompressed 4.2.2
    codec is the same thing as the Blackmagic10 bit codec so they should look the same.

    What happens when you copy paste the Tiff sequences into a 10 bit Uncompressed 4.2.2 FCP sequence? Also, are you seeing the banding before you export? What are you monitoring on? ProRes is a compression codec and you are doing a double conversion going from the tiffs to ProRes and then to uncompressed.

  • Rafael Amador

    September 9, 2008 at 3:08 am

    FC can manage RGB only in 8b.
    The best solution is to export the sequences from Shake as 10b Unc.
    If you have Sheer, you could get them in 10b Unc 444.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Gary Adcock

    September 9, 2008 at 6:52 am

    [Inder Nirwan] “I have a number of sequences that were brought in as uncompressed TIFF 16-bit from Shake and then edited in Final Cut. Unfortunately, when I attempt to export these sequences from FCP I see banding in every shot, “

    FCP can not and does not handle 16bit still files directly.
    FCP is a video app and video does not ever exceed 10bits

    By forcing playback of tif files in FCP you have in effect created an 8bit project.

    Convert the files to 10 bit ProRes or 10Bit Uncompressed video files.
    Turn Off RT extreme- use the Safe Mode only
    Set all processing to Render in 10Bit YUV.

    the workflow for still frames uses DPX files and reference files from Apps like Glue tools or others.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
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