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Final AE export flickering?
Hi there,
I was doing a motion design piece with some high definition product stills in ae, my sequence settings was dv pal.
Quality is crucial since it is a product presentation kind of thing, but when I was exporting for final print to digibeta I noticed that in very detailed areas of animated occured some kind of rustle, or shall I say flickering deformation, which is very annoying and very not professional looking.
When I export final clips in ae I usually use best settings available, either loseless animation or 8bit uncompressed, occasionaly also PRO RES HQ, depending on the length of the piece I am working on.
But when doing high def material, no matter which setting I use I always bump into a same problem when doing print to digibeta (via sdi and kona3) using fcp (I also set fcp in 10bit yuv mode to get the best result before printing).
Does anyone have any idea, or experience to share. Basically how to avoid rustle in animating high def picture, before printing them on a high quality SD master in fcp.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
PS. Motion blur is turned on.
Best regards
drazen
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4 Replies
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kind of rustle, or shall I say flickering deformation, which is very annoying and very not professional looking.
Hmm, this reminds me of the artifacts which can appear when Pixel Motion is enabled. Did you applied some time remapping on the layers and turned Pixel Motion on?
Just my 2 cents.
Dino Muhic – Media Producer
VFX – Motion Graphics – Web-Design – Or just ART
http://www.dinomuhic.com -
Dino zdravo
nope no pixel motion applied, no time remapping applied. The funny thing is when I do my ram preview in ae everything looks perfect, but as soon as I render (no matter what kind of quality, but usually i go for the best) and import the clip in final cut, I get noire, flickering type of effects but only in high def areas.
Best regards
Drazen
drazen
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Hi
I have done some additional tests and realized a couple of things. The problem with flickering and moire in high definition areas occur when importing my ae rendered quicktime movies into my final cut pro studio equiped with a kona 3 card. I have tested a couple of different exporting options.
1, using animation codec, loseless, best settings. I get a beautiful looking quicktime mov file that plays fluidly in fcp and doesnt suffer from moire in high def areas. However no matter what i do in fcp I can get to play this animation rendered file in fcp…only when I go in sequence settings and change the compressor settings to uncompressed I get a clip that I can print to digi beta however as soon as I do that I get moire in high definition areas of the stills. The fine thing when exporting using animation, loseless settings is the fact that there is no visible gamma shift when importing to fcp or playing the quicktime movie.
2. 2nd test. I have exported my ae comp also as uncompressed 10bit seq, layed in fcp timeline, I have set the fcp sequence to 10bit yuv to get the most out of it, however I still get slight moire in line condensed areas.
3. 3rd test. Export as apple pro res hq however, bud obviously didnt get the results needed. Gamma has shifted drastically comparing to what I had on ae comp, and moire was quite visible in line high density areas.
So anyone any ideas.
Best regards
Drazen
drazen
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I’m no FCP user but in your case I would try to get help in the FCP forums as well, since it has to do something with the FCP export and viewer. If your exported Quicktimes look good in the Quicktime Player then there should be no problem with AE.
Still, I would prefer the animation codec or the 10bit export when exporting to AE.Sorry, if I was no help to you.
Dino Muhic – Media Producer
VFX – Motion Graphics – Web-Design – Or just ART
http://www.dinomuhic.com
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