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  • Michael Phillips

    October 2, 2006 at 11:59 pm

    Have you tried the FluidFilm preset to create true 23.976 sources with 2:3 pulldown? Takes its time, but it can look very good.

    anything 24fps

  • Oakmozart

    October 3, 2006 at 1:17 am

    This is NOT a bash on Michael–he’s a legend, for Pete’s sake–but REALLY take his words “takes time” to heart. Depending on the length of your sequence and how much of it you’re applying the FluidFilm effect to, your children can grow up on you while you wait for it to render. Your newborn daughter will be going to prom by the time you finish rendering it to an entire 30-60 minute sequence! I kid you not…BEWARE!!…the render times can be ridiculous!

    Otherwise, yes, I am in absolute agreement with Michael in that the results
    can be downright awesome.

    🙂

  • Michael Phillips

    October 3, 2006 at 11:27 am

    OK… let me more precise. 😉

    It can take a verrry long time, especially if you are doing an entire feature. It is recreating all the frames in the effect on a pixel per pixel basis and first goes through an analysis phase then the render phase. But it is end up being a true progressive source with 2:3 puilldown as though you had shot 24fps and transferred to NTSC. I use the FluidMotion to retime interlace materials as a frame converter to other frames rates – like adding a shot that was done interlace into a progressive project.

    There are other solutions out there that would work as well – I was suggesting the one that came with the system so it was not extra $$ out of your pocket – just minutes/hours off your life… Look at Magic Bullet, Boris FX, DV Filmmaker, etc.

    Michael

    anything 24fps

  • Oakmozart

    October 3, 2006 at 2:15 pm

    I just want to reiterate that I was NOT bashing you, and NO opffense meant, Michael! Honest…just wanted to warn him (a bit facetiously) just how long the renders can be.

    You’re the man!

  • Dave Schweitzer

    October 4, 2006 at 3:55 am

    The Fluidfilm 2:3 cadence effect gives great results, and unless it’s been fixed in recent versions here’s something to watch out for:
    Make sure you don’t nest the effect in say a color correction or other effect. When it comes time to render in/out or render all and walk out for the night, you may find the video is still at 29.97 – very realistic. I found this out the hard way and have since begun the practice of each effect being on it’s own layer – but only where this effect is involved.
    And again, it’s a very nice effect.

    Has anyone opened up the editor and tweaked the settings – and if so, what did you find?

  • Grinner Hester

    October 4, 2006 at 6:20 am

    I found the presets to be spot on. I have tweeked attributes galore and havn’t found a prettier setting.
    With fluid motion speed effects, some speeds don’t jive with some action sometimes. I have never had any trouble with fluidfilm tho.

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