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Film a tv, then put a movie in it… in post. How?
In a week, we’ll be shooting a short film about a woman watching TV. The old movie she’s watching will be shot separately.
The objective is to ‘put’ the old movie ‘inside’ the TV in post.
But how do you do that? Should we actually, physically replace the tube with a piece of greenscreen (ruining the tv)? Or is there an easier way?
To complicate matters further, there will be a dolly move toward the tv.
Any suggestions and how-to’s will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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5 Replies
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Hi,
I’ll give the Cliff Notes version:
i) Corner pinning
ii) Maybe add a Distort to match the screen original
iii) Use a blend mode to keep the highlights – Note: If you’re doing this then keep the screen as neutral grey as possible.Good luck with your project,
BenCurious Turtle Professional Video
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Using the new Motion Tracker
https://studio.adobe.com/us/tips/tip.jsp?p=1&id=487&xml=aft6ttmotiontracker
Keep motion in perspective
https://studio.adobe.com/us/tips/tip.jsp?p=1&id=100241&xml=aft65cornerpin
and if AE’s tracker can’t cut it, Mocha and Perspective Corner Pin Effect :
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/rabinowitz_aharon/Mocha_Tut_1.php
Give it that TV look:Creating An Old TV Screen
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/rabinowitz_aharon/old_tv.php
or Pete’s Plugins has an AE freebie for TV Pixel:
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No matter the process you use to motion track and corner pin (personally, I use Mocha for it’s versitality)…
How easy the motion tracking and adding of CG effects will be is dependent upon how you film the scene.
Therefore, I would strongly suggest you get profficent at motion tracking and corner pinning before you film.
A ton of work can be saved if you film it from a perspective of having experience in doing needed CG work needed with motion tracking and corner pinning…. which also means, knowing the limitations of your tracking software.
Joe
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Getting the movie pasted into the screen is easy compared to shooting the scene so it appears the television set is on. This gets really complicated if the movie that she’s watching has specific action or effects scenes that would change the light on her or the room dramatically.. I promise you, it’s easier to do the motivational lighting while shooting that it is to put it in as an effect in post.
bogiesan
This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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I worked on a project very similar not too long ago. We did have a shot where we dollied back (I believe that it will work the same for your dolly move). I tracked the footage using position and scale tracking…surprisingly AE tracked it very well. I applied the tracker info to a null and parented my footage to the null. The movement was dead on. As far as replacing the footage use a mask to cut out the tv screen, place your replacement footage as a layer below the tv and scale accordingly. Then use some of the tips from the tutorials to make it look like a real tv ex (lens distortion, shadowing…) Good Luck. You could even add some random footage on top with the opacity very low to give the effect of the glass reflecting its environment.
Hope some of this helps.
Ben
Ben-Jamin Productions
Motion Graphics and Compositing
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