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  • File Types from Avid

    Posted by Ted Moore on March 9, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    In Avid Media Composer 6, I have Consolidated/Transcoded my Panasonic P2 footage using the DV 25 411 MXF Target Resolution, most, 95%, of our video is shot at 480…

    When I browse my Avid Media Drive, a Drobo drive with 26 TB, and navigate to the /Avid MediaFiles/MXF/1 media folder I get 29 video files. I have a total of 1,916 files in Finder, granted most are audio files, but still quite a discrepancy.

    I’m not sure how to find out the codec used to encode the file in Avid and am kinda lost at this point. I can’t use .aaf to edit sequences (DaVinci freezes every time I try to load an .aaf), which makes sense now because I can’t seem to load the transcoded footage. I’m relegated to single file color grading which is much slower…

    I have several questions as a result:
    • I thought the DnxH Codec is/was available to DaVinci
    • If I transcode as AppleProRes 422 I am still unavailable to view the .mxf footage into DaVinci.
    • since I haven’t setup the Avid MC with special “settings” I’m not sure what to change, because I’m assuming that is the issue and NOT DaVinci..

    I’ve been called stupid before, this is, maybe, no different…

    Ideas?

    Thanks,
    Ted

    Michael Phillips replied 12 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Juan Salvo

    March 9, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    To Resolve, it’s not just a matter of the codec, the wrapper is just as important. Resolve does not support mxf wrapped prores. Just mov wrapped prores. The problem you have is that you’re working in SD and DNxHD is not available to you. The only work around i can think of is the get your avid edit into automatic duck to export DV wrapped movs and an XML, then grade those.

    Otherwise, you could switch to an HD project and transcode to DNxHD, which would be visible to Resolve.

    Here is a full list of supported codecs. Please note the wrappers.

    https://www.blackmagic-design.com/media/2588311/davinci_resolve_8.2_supported_codec_list.pdf

  • Ted Moore

    March 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    Thanks @Juan

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  • Pat Horridge

    March 10, 2012 at 9:19 am

    I see from the list that uncompressed YUV MXF is supported. If working SD maybe you can transcode to uncompressed to send to resolve.
    I’ll give it a test nest week.
    Currently resolve on my pc just quits if I click on an unsupported MXF file which is a real piano

    Better error handling is a must. Too many application unexpected quits rather than a warning message currently.

    The real frustration is that Avid can AMA most of the source formats Resolve can happily work with. But Avid can’t produce an AAF of AMA linked media.

    Pat Horridge
    wew.vet.co.uk

  • Michael Phillips

    March 10, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Pat – you should be able to export an AAF of AMA linked clips by checking “use edit protocol”. Avid is not clear as to what the does, removes, allows, etc. but I have done it on AMA edited sequences with cuts. dissolves, etc.

    Michael

    Michael Phillips

  • Pat Horridge

    March 10, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    I guess it’s similar to sending an AFE to Avid DS.
    On the DS side you can choose to use alternate sources and then link to that source media in DS.
    Be great if Resolve can behave in a similar way.
    Testing and yet more testing will tell us.

  • Jef Huey

    March 10, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    The OP stated they are working with DV25 as mxf. This is not on the codec list. The poster who suggested a transcode to uncompressed has the correct answer.

    And Micheal’s suggestion on the way to make the AAF is good also. But I do not believe Resolve will ever see the DV25 material – not on the list.

    Jef

  • Michael Phillips

    March 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Correct – you are dealing with basically three things:

    AAF, AFE, EDL, etc. all represent compositional metadata
    MXF, QT, etc. represent wrapper (to the essence) and contains metadata about those sources
    The “codec”: DNxHD, MPEG, etc, the essence that is the picture and sound files.

    A typical Avid scenario: An AAF composition that points to MXF wrapped DNxHD essence.

    AMA can point to a QuickTime wrapped essence and sequences metadata can be EDL or AAF (with edit protocol).

    Then it is up to Resolve to support all three depending on workflow to access composition metadata, source metadata, and codec.

    Michael

    Michael Phillips

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