Field Dominance Problem!

[Casey Baugess]

BTW, I have had success with any other comp size (720×480, etc.) it just seems to be 1920×1080 that has a dominant field. I am also using the render queue and have tried ‘custom’ instead of any comp setting presets. Still no luck!

[Steve Roberts]

1. It’s Comp settings, not Sequence settings, by the way.

2. When you Make Movie, look at your Render Settings in the Render Queue. This is where fields are made or not.

3. Sorry, but it’s “field order”, not “dominance”. They are two different things.

4. How do you know your rendered movie is Upper Field First? How are you viewing it? In which app?

5. Where is field order set to off? In which dialog?

[Marcello Mazzilli]

After FX “doesn’t know” what you will need until you render.. so the best way of working is this…
1) Interpret correctly all your footage. You have to check that After FX “knows” what are the fields for each piece of footage. If it knows what fields does the footage have.. it will treat it accordingly. Also here you have to check size, pixel aspect ratio, etc….

2) Do your editing regardless of fields or of result you need (progressive or interlaced, upper or lower fields)

3) In the OUTPUT settings in the render queue select what fields you want for the output (lower, upper or none). Please also note that for correct field output quality has to be good and not draft, and resolution has to be full.

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[Steve Roberts]

Field Render settings are in the Render Settings in the Queue, not the Output Module.

… just to be technical about it. 🙂

[Casey Baugess]

1. It’s Comp settings, not Sequence settings, by the way.
Thanks for clarifying the terminology and understanding what I mean.

2. When you Make Movie, look at your Render Settings in the Render Queue. This is where fields are made or not.
I have and it’s turned off.

4. How do you know your rendered movie is Upper Field First? How are you viewing it? In which app?
In Final Cut Pro.

5. Where is field order set to off? In which dialog?
Under render settings.

[Casey Baugess]

Thanks for the response. I have it set to “Field Render: Off” under teh render settings and even if there is no footage and just a layer of after effects type, Final Cut Pro is still telling me it has a field “order” of upper. When I do render animations (regardless of content) at ANYTHING other than 1920×1080 there is “none” under field order. It seems only to want to set a field order when its full hd. Any suggestions?

[Casey Baugess]

FYI, found the solution. Final Cut Pro is reading the footage as ‘upper’ field dominance when in fact the footage is progressive. By changing the field on the clip in fcp to ‘none’ it works just fine. Thanks for everyone’s help.

[Steve Roberts]

Thanks for posting the solution, Casey.

Sometimes I drag a mysterious clip into AE, interpret it different ways and read the clip’s info in the project window to figure out what’s going on with a clip. This is sometimes necessary because editing apps aren’t quite as … objective … about a clip’s characteristics.

There are at least three apps to use when checking clips: QT Player, AE, and an editing app. When things go weird, it’s good to know what each of those will tell you about the clip.

……

Maybe the COW should sell “I’m ordered, not dominant” t-shirts. Dave would buy one. I’d buy the other. 🙂

[Ramon Piracha]

Regardless of getting the lingo wrong, Youre right man. I have the same issue CS5. Its a bug. I tested it out in CS3 AE and regardless of how many times you push out a render it will render with the settings you choose. But in CS5 when you tell it you switch off field render it still randomly pushes out the render with upper/odd field. But its random as some times it will push out the exact same job with field render switched off as required. I checked the item properties of multiple renders in FCP, tested between CS3 and CS5 and without fail CS5 delivers a nice pole up the backend. Stuffed up days worth of work as I checked my settings and started rendering without checking the properties for every single render…why the hell would you?? I am totally pissed. I logged it adobe but the tech was not available so have to wait a few days..

[Casey Baugess]

Did you try my solution above? In my situation, it was Final Cut that was reading the footage wrong. After Effects was rendering correctly. Good luck!