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Field Dominance problem and questions
I am trying to capture 24p Advanced DVCAM material. I’ve been using the easy setup. I’ve tried test captures of about 15 seconds (using capture now) which come into FCP with a field Dom. of NONE and load into my 23.98 sequence timeline with a olive green render indicator (I know I can edit with that as that is just a playback resolution downgrade). If I rewind to approx. the same start point on the tape and capture a 9 minute clip, it comes in with a field dominance of EVEN and loads into the exact same timeline with an orange render indicator. First off, that seems oddd to me. Secondly, I’ve read in this forum that there is a possibility that I can change the field dom. of my longer clips and/or my sequence, but I’m not at all clear on it. Will changing the field dom. allow me to edit w/o render indicators? Do you think that it is the field dom. issue that is causing the render indicators’ to appear, or could it be other issues. It seems to be that the fact that I can get the short clips to load with and olive green line, means that it probably is the field dom. issue that is causing my difficulties. Is there an error in my logic? I’m also unclear about the message in another thread in which it suggests that I am able to tell FCP not to render in interlaced mode. Is that something I can do? Does it even apply to my situation?
Thank you all.
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7 Replies
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Alright, let’s go trough this again.
First of all there’s no 24p Advanced DVCAM material. DVCaM is a Sony format. 24p Advanced is a Panasonic feature. Which do you have?
Use the DV 24p Remove advanced pulldown easy setup and CREATE A NEW SEQUENCE (very important). Do not use capture now. Log and capture only. If you truly have 24pA material, FCP can have a hard time determining the cadence using capture now.
You should NOT have to change the field dominance with your CLIPS as they should come in 23.98 progressive, you should ONLY change the field dominance in your TIMELINE. If you have a bad combination of any of these things, you will get a render bar and you are doing something wrong.
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
Thanks for the quick response. Forgive my inexperience. I’m an old-school AVID feature editor used to telecine and have no experience with DV cameras. I’ll watch my nomenclature from here on in. My stuff is shot with a Panasonic in 24pA mode.
Due to my lack of experience with FCP, I’m not sure exactly what you mean by use easy setup and create a sequence. I think you mean that I should establish all my settings using easy setup including all of my sequence settings.
I had a funny feeling that the capture now mode was having cadence issues. Am I correct in thinking that’s way shorter clips came in w/ no field dom.?
Regarding log an capture: All my tapes have many TC breaks. Will I need to go through them to get ins and outs, log those perameters and then batch capture?
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[SB6755] ” All my tapes have many TC breaks. Will I need to go through them to get ins and outs, log those perameters and then batch capture?”
YES! That is the best way to ensure that FCP is picking up the correct cadence. Timecode breaks will mess up capture in FCP in general and ESPECIALLY when trying to remove pulldown on the fly which is what you are doing now.
[SB6755] ” I think you mean that I should establish all my settings using easy setup including all of my sequence settings. “
What I mean is hit control-q. This bring up the easy setups dialogue. Select the DV 24p Remove Advanced Pulldown setup (I forget what it says exactly, but it’s something to that effect). If you don’t see it, be sure to check the ‘select all’ box in the easy setup window and then you should see that option then.
[SB6755] “Am I correct in thinking that’s way shorter clips came in w/ no field dom.? “
Probably, as capture now does work kind of, but FCP will get tripped up if it captures across a tc break.
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
Thanks for the details on easy setup.
If I capture properly I should expect to end up with a gray render indicator bar. If I should end up with an olive green bar, do I understand FCP correctly in reading that as an okay to cut, just to expect a downgrade in playback resolution?
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I forgot a step in there. Once you choose the easy setup, CREATE A NEW SEQUENCE. Then start adding your properly captured clips. If you do not create a new sequence you will be stuck with the ‘old’ settings from the sequence which might not match your captured material.
[SB6755] “If I capture properly I should expect to end up with a gray render indicator bar.”
Yes it should be greyish and when you point to the indicator (hover your cursor over the bar) a little yellow window should pop up and say Video:media file, AUdio:Media file. if it says ‘full’ or ‘preview’ or if it is light green, that means that you have a setting weird somewhere and your capture and timeline settings aren’t matching.
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
I will create a new sequence immediately after configuring easy setup and then I will begin capturing. I have trouble with the idea that you can create different sequences (settings wise, that is) within the same project. In the AVID once your project settings are configured, only one type of sequence comes up.
I cannot tell you how much I aprreciate your time in helping me. Thanks a million!
Best,
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No problem and happy to help. the sheer amount of settings that are possible with FCP can be overwhelming when you first start to acclimate yourself with FCP. once you learn it, you will begin to welcome it. FCP is very flexible.
Also, learning from an Avid will kind of be tough as the Avid and FCP work differently. I come from a Media100 background and I had to unlearn media100 and learn FCPs way of doing things. it takes a little bit, but once you get it, you get it and FCP is a joy.
Write back with any more problems, any at all.
Jeremy
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