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Features to surpass Premiere
Posted by Veronica Flume on February 12, 2008 at 7:40 pmIf Vegas would add the following features found in Adobe Premiere, I think they would eat Adobe’s lunch, so to speak. Without these features, though, Vegas isn’t really usable for complex projects (for us, at least).
– Multiple, nestable timelines WITHIN a single project
– Standard ripple and rolling edit toolsHaving all the basic features of Premiere, combined with Vegas’ superior performance, format compatibility, and other innovative features would make for quite a noteworthy product. But so long a Vegas lacks certain fundamentals that Premiere has, people will tend towards the self-proclaimed “industry leader”. It would really be sweet if Vegas would even surpass Premiere in the area of multiple timelines, allowing for example for each timeline in a project to have any frame size. Premiere will probably never do that, and it would be great for compositing.
Opinions? Other features Vegas is lacking?
Regards,
VeronicaRob Mack replied 18 years, 2 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies -
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Ivan Bald
February 12, 2008 at 7:52 pmOne feature I would love to have in Vegas is more support regarding flash and especially FLV, but considering that flash=adobe nowadays that’s a long shot…
Personally I have always been reluctant towards Adobe products (dunno why), I always try to peak around the corner and go with an alternative. Funny thing is that in the end I eventually come crawling back: ) happened numerous times: Swishmax instead of Flash, Photofiltre instead of Photoshop, Vegas instead of Premiere, Audacity instead of Audition …
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Mike Kujbida
February 12, 2008 at 8:12 pm“Multiple, nestable timelines WITHIN a single project”
I’ve used this feature on my dpsVelocity and I prefer the way Vegas does it (nested vegs or having multiple copies of it open).
Standard ripple
It already does this – with 3 choices as to what’s affected.
and rolling edit tools
From a reply by Dithermaster on May 26, 2002:
Alt drag in an event Slips;
Ctrl Alt drag for Slide;
Alt edge drag for Slip Trim;
Ctrl Alt edge drag for Adjacent Trim (rolling edit). -
Veronica Flume
February 12, 2008 at 9:05 pmIt already does this – with 3 choices as to what’s affected.
How do you do a quick ripple edit on the end of a clip?
I’ve used this feature on my dpsVelocity and I prefer the way Vegas does it (nested vegs or having multiple copies of it open).
I don’t really think it is a matter of one way or the other. It would be cool if Vegas had both!
Regards,
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Mike Kujbida
February 12, 2008 at 10:33 pm“How do you do a quick ripple edit on the end of a clip?”
If you mean ‘get rid of the empty space left over after cutting/trimming’, there’s 2 ways.
It’ll automatically tighten up if you have Ripple Edit enabled or (my preferred method) double-click in the empty space, hit Del and then Ctrl+Shift+F. This way, you don’t have to worry about messing up material further down the timeline that you can’t see.“It would be cool if Vegas had both!”
Agreed!!
It’s been asked for before but it never hurts to ask again. -
Jerry Waters
February 13, 2008 at 3:18 amWhere Premiere is sadly lacking is in Vegas handling of audio and rendering files. There are not many more problems than one can encounter in rendering files. The variety and ease of render is much better in Vegas.
What Vegas could use are a few of the plugins that Adobe gets first because there are more Adobe users – like the new Magic Bullet Looks, but a Vegas version is promised soon. Vegas could also use a better HD preview like CineForm did for Premiere but that isn’t really Adobe. They gutted the Adobe engine to create that.
Premiere is 10 bit, Vegas 8 but that means very little to most users. Unless you are doing a Hollywood movie (I didn’t say just an Indie) Vegas has more features (speaking programs without plugins) and is easier to use. I own Vegas 8 and CS3 Production Suite.
JerryW
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Veronica Flume
February 13, 2008 at 5:40 amIt seems like having ripple edit enabled is a lot like using the ripple edit tool in Premiere. But you can also hold down Ctrl in Premiere and drag the end of a clip, which I love and use all day long. That way I don’t have to do an extra action to toggle back and forth between regular trimming and ripple trimming. I can’t seem to find that feature in Vegas.
Regards,
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Edward Troxel
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Mike Kujbida
February 13, 2008 at 2:38 pm“But you can also hold down Ctrl in Premiere and drag the end of a clip…”
Do that in Vegas and you’ll end up with a sped up (Ctrl drag left) or slowed down (Ctrl drag right) clip 🙂
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Veronica Flume
February 14, 2008 at 7:06 pmThis illustrates my point exactly. Having to toggle ripple editing on and off, or use two commands for each ripple edit, is not nearly as convenient as just doing ctrl+drag in Premiere. In my opinion, Vegas should strive to make everything at least as easy as it is in Premiere, if not easier, in order to surpass Premiere. Even though I think Premiere is a piece of junk in many ways, the simplicity of all the various editing commands allows me to work really fast.
Regards,
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Rob Mack
February 15, 2008 at 1:40 amDepends on your preferences. I prefer to leave Ripple editing off in Vegas and I never have to switch it back on. But that’s just the way I want to work.
I like the manual Post Edit Ripple because I can decide whether to just move my track, My track and all markers, or everything on all tracks plus the markers. I find this very flexible, But perhaps if Vegas could do inserts and Overwrites maybe I’d turn automatic ripple back on.
Rob Mack
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